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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 34
07/08/02 - Monday - Day 34 | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 34

Posted on 07/07/2002 10:06:21 PM PDT by stlnative

Please keep adding Elizabeth Smart updates to this thread...
Remember to keep checking back to this thread today for today's
developing news on the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping.


Elizabeth was taken from her home at about 1:30am on the morning of June 5th, 2002.

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Salt Lake City Police Department Website
FBI Kidnappings/Critical Missing Persons - Elizabeth Smart
FBI - Salt Lake City Branch
Elizabeth Smart Website
Smart Residence Real Estate Listing
Brigette's Scanned Copy of House Layout from Newsweek Magazine
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as others and I will continue to add the latest breaking news reports as they are released throughout the day.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elizabethsmart; kidnapping; missingpersons; utah
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To: twigs
Lots of great questions, twigs. We can only hope that LEA are asking the same questions, and getting enough answers (evidence) to arrest the Ricci gang for the kidnapping within the next few days.
21 posted on 07/08/2002 10:50:18 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Here are some Links for you.

FBI Critical Missing Person's Page
America's Most Wanted
Missing Person's Cyber Center
Rachel Alert
Amber Plan
Polly Klaas Foundation
Wings of Protection
Child Cyber Search

22 posted on 07/08/2002 10:53:29 AM PDT by Pistacio
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To: twigs
If Ricci was hired because of his relationship to the Smart family, then someone close to the family must have directed the mastermind to Ricci;

Why? If you assume your premise is valid, where are the facts behind your conclusion? Why are you assuming that those close to the family are the only ones who could mastermind such a crime? That is a leap. Most druggies I have had the misfortune to have been around have delusions of grandeur. Maybe Ricci doesn't have the brainpower, but Angela may have conjured up this scheme.

2) Why did Ricci retrieve the jeep on May 30 if the kidnapping did not take place until May 5? Could the kidnapping have been planned earlier, then was delayed for some reason?

This portion of your theory may have merit. The death of the grandfather may have interupted the scheme.

If I were to draw a flow chart of possibilities, I believe that all viable choices would still lead to someone close and trusted to the family (not Ricci) as the mastermind.

Why don't you build the flow chart? You have to look at motivation and known facts - not speculation. The family's only real motivation would have been a huge life insurance policy, which apparently was not the case. The "gay" linkage "reported" (using the term loosely) would not have provided sufficient motivation for killing a child.

23 posted on 07/08/2002 11:54:39 AM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: twigs
Do you have a source? Even if he is intelligent, I still don't buy that he masterminded this, although I can certainly be proven wrong!

Your assumption that a mastermind is required may not be valid. Ricci knew the victim, possibly had a key to the house, knew the layout of the house, and was a cat burglar by trade. All that was missing from a plan would be where to hide the victim and establishing an alibi. We already know that his alibi is full of holes. None of that requires rocket science.

24 posted on 07/08/2002 12:00:38 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: That Subliminal Kid
What in hell does my job have to do with a meaningless thread about a girl who the media has singled out for no other reason than sheer laziness? Just because you're one of the millions of sheeple who gobble up this pablum without a second thought doesn't mean you should attack me for pointing the fact out.

Since you are That Subliminal Kid
why don't you read between the lines?

25 posted on 07/08/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Jolly Green
I do not believe that the family had anything to do with this, at least none of the family that I've seen on TV. The Smarts and Francoms seem like a genuinely close and loving family. I said someone close to the family. The police has also repeatedly said this and I've never been convinced that the "trusted" person is Ricci.

Admittedly, what I posted is speculation. As for sticking to facts, I am not sure what they are. So much has been stated and refuted that I have come to the conclusion that much of what we "know" may be in error. I listen to reporters ask questions and when they report what they've just learned, I find that their interpretation is different from mine. I believe that LE, rightly, is keeping many known facts close to the vest. So like others on this thread, I am speculating. Of course it is possible that Ricci ran this by himself. I just don't think this is the most probable alternative, but that certainly doesn't make it so. I've listened to people with LE backgrounds come to the same conclusion.

I DO appreciate the give and take of fellow freepers and learn a great deal through reading the opinions and disagreements of others. That's the reason I posted. It may not have sounded so, but my primary wish is for ES to come home--yesterday!

26 posted on 07/08/2002 12:11:09 PM PDT by twigs
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To: Jolly Green
Your assumption that a mastermind is required may not be valid... None of that requires rocket science.

Well, you're right about one thing--I am not a rocket scientist! And my assumption may not be valid. This guy is a petty thief and may have done this on his own. My gut feeling is that he didn't. But I've been wrong before. Ricci has spent most of his adult life in jail and with his recent marriage and steady job, had a lot to live for. Had reasons to keep his nose clean. Since I'm not a criminal, I don't think like one and may have misjudged him. But I get the feeling that LE can't pin it on him either.

27 posted on 07/08/2002 12:16:14 PM PDT by twigs
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To: That Subliminal Kid
here is another great link for you.

Active Most Wanted

28 posted on 07/08/2002 12:44:23 PM PDT by Pistacio
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To: All
Faithful God,

Your promises stand unshaken through all generations. We ask You to renew us in hope this day as we come before You in behalf of Your precious child, Elizabeth. You alone know the extent of the horror she has endured. We ask You, Father, to lay Your hand upon this child, that she may be comforted with the sure knowledge of Your presence. Father, we remember You as the tears run down our cheeks for this child. But we know, Dear God, that You are faithful to Your people, and that You watch over Your Word to perform it. Therefore, we will not be cast down, but we will hope in You, Great God. You are the health of Elizabeth’s countenance. You have promised to command Your loving kindness in the daytime and Your song will be with her at night. Lord, we will continue to hope in You. You are our God. You are Elizabeth’s God. We call upon our souls to hope in You, and we will praise You for the help of Your countenance. Make haste, O God, to deliver Elizabeth. Make haste to help her, O Lord. We ask in faith-filled agreement, believing in the power of the Word, and in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

29 posted on 07/08/2002 12:50:02 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Faith

AMEN

Beautiful as usual, Faith.

Blessings, trussell

30 posted on 07/08/2002 12:59:35 PM PDT by trussell
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To: twigs
Well, you're right about one thing--I am not a rocket scientist!

I was referring to Ricci, not you! Relatively speaking, you probably are.

31 posted on 07/08/2002 1:13:33 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Jolly Green
I'm trying. Why don't you help me out?
32 posted on 07/08/2002 1:28:26 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
And you are here on this thread because??????????????
33 posted on 07/08/2002 1:30:54 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Because I'm amazed and annoyed by the willingness of people to become consumed with whatever the media puts in front of them.
34 posted on 07/08/2002 1:34:36 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
You certainly do know about being consumed...........

SEEK HELP

36 posted on 07/08/2002 1:39:43 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Because I'm amazed and annoyed by the willingness of people to become consumed with whatever the media puts in front of them.

I think you got it backward. The media is only covering this because of the immense public desire to know more as evidenced by these threads. Do you think the media would waste their money covering something that doesn't translate into increased viewers? This is a riveting case for a whole lot of reasons, something you apparently don't understand.

37 posted on 07/08/2002 1:41:15 PM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: OldFriend
Subliminal Kid is here because he wants to prove his superiority to the rest of us "who feed so blindly into what the media tells us to do." He needs to move onto another thread and spread his wisdom there...
38 posted on 07/08/2002 1:42:54 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: brigette; All
I found this timeline at KSL, pretty good set of facts.

JUNE 5
One month ago today Elizabeth Smart disappears from her bedroom early in the morning. One of the biggest searches in local history begins.

JUNE 6
A milkman gives a description of a grey car, with a 266 license plate- seen near Elizabeth's home just days before she was abducted.

JUNE 7
A suspicious man is spotted by volunteer searchers in Emigration Canyon. He is never found

JUNE 10
Elizabeth's father Ed Smart submits to a polygraph test.

JUNE 11
An angry Salt Lake City police chief announces to the kidnapper..."We will get you"

JUNE 12
One week after Elizabeth disappears... Police release a mugshot of Brett Michael Edmunds, reportedly seen in the Avenues area. He is wanted for questioning.

JUNE 13
Police theorize kidnapping may have been an inside job.

JUNE 14
Police in Texas believe they've captured Brett Edmunds . But they have the wrong man.

JUNE 18
Nearly two weeks into the investigation police give more details about the kidnapper and change the official story. It turns out the suspect never threatened nine year old Mary Catherine--- Just her sister Elizabeth.

JUNE 19
Police maintain Mary Catherine's story is solid and a key to the case.

JUNE 20
Police say the family computers reveal no clues into the kidnapping.

JUNE 21
Brett Edmunds is finally captured in a West Virginia Hospital. After questioning, moves no closer to being considered a suspect.

JUNE 24
Another man, Richard Ricci rises to the "top of the list" of possible suspects.

JUNE 25
Police focus on Ricci's cars.

JUNE 27
The search is narrowed on the Smart family neighborhood.
And on Ricci's white Jeep Cherokee.

JUNE 28
Richard Ricci's wife, Angela defends her husband's alibi the night Elizabeth was kidnapped.

JULY 1
Neighbors are asked for fingerprints.

JULY 3
An additional reward is offered.

JULY 4
Yesterday police focused on three ex cons and handymen who worked in neighborhood.

39 posted on 07/08/2002 1:43:59 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Most of the people are here because they have a heart that is breaking for this little girl. Evidently, there are those without a shred of humanity and I pity them.
40 posted on 07/08/2002 1:45:50 PM PDT by OldFriend
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