Skip to comments.LAX Gunman Linked to Bin Laden s Lieutenant and FBI Operative Ali Mohammed?
Posted on 07/06/2002 5:33:11 PM PDT by OKCSubmarinerEdited on 09/03/2002 4:50:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
NewsMax reported in a story
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Father of El Al attacker former Egyptian army general
"The father of Egyptian gunman Hisham Mohammed Hadayet who opened fire at a check-in counter of Israeli carrier El Al in Los Angeles was a general in Egypt's army, his neighbors said Friday.
"The former general, Ahmad Ali Hadayet, lives in the family household in the central Abbassiya district in Cairo, an AFP reporter said."
Egyptian masterminds behind bin Laden
"A child of privilege like bin Laden, Zawahiri was born in 1951 to a powerful and affluent Cairo family. His grandfather was the grand imam of Al Azhar in Cairo, one of the most important mosques in the Arab world. Another great-uncle was the first secretary-general of the Arab League.
After attending an exclusive prep school and graduating from the prestigious medical school at Cairo University, Zawahiri practiced medicine in a wealthy Cairo neighborhood of villas and restaurants."
Ahmed Ressam - Terror School - Los Angeles International Airport
"Others at the camp included members of terrorist groups such as Algeria's Armed Islamic Group and the Salafist Group for Call and Combat, the Palestinian group Hamas, the Shiite Hezbollah, the Egyptian Jihad and the al Qaeda network."
'Sleeper' terrorists blended into America perfectly
"On a late summer day in suburban San Diego last September, Nawaq Alhamzi and Khalid Al- Midhar performed the most mundane of tasks: They pitched in to clean up leaves, raking and bagging with other men on a short, dead- end street in Lemon Grove, Calif."
...Perhaps most striking about the attackers is their commitment over a number of years, patiently learning and honing pilot skills in at least 10 schools across the country.
That persistence was demonstrated by suspect Hani Hanjour, who traveled the nation, from Florida to Arizona to San Diego, in a lengthy quest to earn his wings. Several instructors have said they found Hanjour dangerously lacking in skill."
FBI Failed To Use Credible Intelligence and Forewarnings To Move Against Terror Cells In Time
"And another example of FBI failed policy of tracking known terrorists in the US was followed and defended by FBI Director Louis Freeh in May 1995 before Congress. Freeh bragged that the FBI had help populate three Abu Nidal terrorists cells in the US with known middle eastern terrorists who were allowed to roam to long train others and set up more cells like Ali Mohammed without apprehension.
Freeh said the three Abu Nidal cells were in Dallas, Los Angeles and near Washington DC. Abu Nidal is a brutal, blood thirsty terrorist who is close to Sadam Hussain and who may have helped in the recent WTC attacks. In 1999 and in 2000 CBN News and terrorism expert Steve Emerson reported Abu Nidal meeting with Sadam Hussein in Iraq."
NOW US ADMITS HUNTING HIJACKERS 3 WEEKS BEFORE ATTACK; TERROR CELLS ESCAPE THE BIG FBI DRAGNET
"FBI headquarters failed to pass on the names of the men to its office in San Diego - where, it turns out, the men had been living."
Two terrorists were under investigation by FBI; The Manhunt Intelligence Services Under Attack For Missing Hijackers Living In America
NEST OF TERRORISTS "The authorities established that both men had flown into LA early last year and into New York earlier this year. It has also emerged that both men had lived in America at various times in the past year. Al-Hamzi had rented a room in San Diego from September to December last year, which al-Midhar had shared for the first month."
LIVING WITH THE TERRORIST ENEMY
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
THREE of the suspected hijackers plotted their part in the atrocity from a home in furnished with little more than a television.
Khalid Al-Midhar, Nawaq Alhamzi and Hani Hanjoor disappeared late one night about three weeks ago from the two-storey Parkside Apartments on Mount Ada Road, Clairemont, in San Diego.
When FBI agents started asking questions at the complex the terrible truth dawned on residents. 'This is just too devastating to have so close to home,' said Keith Link, whose own apartment overlooked the trio's terror cell.
It appears that they settled first at Clairemont before moving to nearby Lemon Grove, then spending time at an Arizona flight school before returning to the Parkside Apartments.
Al-Midhar and Alhamzi spent some time staying with prominent Moslem leader Abdussattar Shaikh, a retired English professor at San Diego State University.
He lives in a two-storey house on a hillside overlooking a Lemon Grove valley. Filled with books and pamphlets on Islam, it's a gathering place for young men who share the culture and faith.
Alhamzi, who said he was from Saudi Arabia, lived with him from September to December. 'He was a loner and didn't talk much,' said Shaikh.
'He said he came here to learn English, but I didn't see him going to school very often. He told me he wanted to marry a Mexican girl. He said that Mexican girls made good wives. The problem was that he didn't know any Spanish. So I taught him a few Spanish phrases.'
The other suspect, Al-Midhar, lived with Shaikh for about four weeks last September. 'Khalid spoke hardly any English. He said he was from Saudi Arabia and he and Nawaq were friends from childhood.
'I never had any hint that they were going to do something this terrible. They never expressed dislike or hatred for America. Looking back, the only strange thing about them was that they always went out to make phone calls rather than make them in the house.
'I feel so sad. I'm doing my best to bring the people together, and I get people like that in my house.'
Hanjoor received pilot training at CRM Airline Training Centre in Scottsdale, Arizona, for three months in 1996 and in December 1997. CRM president Duncan Hastie said Hanjoor, believed to be the pilot of the jet that crashed into the Pentagon, was polite and personable, but a poor student. 'He didn't do his homework and he didn't show up on time.'
Hanjoor received a commercial pilot's licence in 1999.
Neighbours say the three men all returned to live at the Clairemont apartments several months ago.
Apartment manager Holly Ratchford described Alhamzi as polite, an 'attractive guy' who often stopped by the rental office to chat and share coffee and cookies.
Residents at first warmly greeted their neighbours but gave up when they got little or no response. Late in the evening people would come and pick them up 'in really fancy nice cars, brand-new Lincolns'.
Neighbour Freddy Evans said: 'They used the pool, but only when no-one else was there. They were strange. Three grown men playing in the pool like kids.'
Another resident LaBaron Coker saw them abruptly disappear late at night last month. 'I saw them moving out. They had a rental truck.' "
"Security chiefs on both sides of the Atlantic repeatedly turned down the chance to acquire a vast intelligence database on Osama bin Laden and more than 200 leading members of his al-Qaeda terrorist network in the years leading up to the 11 September attacks."
A MUDDLED EGYPTIAN MIND
"Evidence of that is seen in the handling of a search for two of the hijackers initiated by the CIA 15 days before they crashed American Flight 11 into the Pentagon. On Aug. 27, the CIA sent a high-priority message to the FBI, the INS, the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Dept. and Customs. An FBI official said the CIA requested only that the INS put four men on a special watch list immediately. It informed the recipients that all four were suspected terrorists with ties to the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, an arm of Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda."
CIA, FBI Disagree on Urgency of Aug. 27 Cable Warning of Terrorists Entering U.S.
"The official, who read parts of the classified cable to The Times, said it warned that the four suspected terrorists, including Almihdhar and Alhazmi, had "confirmed links to Egyptian Islamic Jihad operatives." U.S. intelligence believes the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, one of the world's most ruthless terrorist groups, merged with Al Qaeda last June in Afghanistan.
...The cable added that Almihdhar flew into New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport on July 4 and that Alhazmi flew into Los Angeles on Jan. 15, 2000.
...Field agents were sent first to check Marriott hotels in New York, the address Almihdhar had given when he arrived in July, and then at Sheraton hotels around Los Angeles.."
Here is another one to add to the collection:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/711929/posts Al Qaeda Fingered in LAX Attack
Newsmax | 7/6/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 7/6/02 9:19 PM Pacific by NormsRevenge
Saturday July 6, 2002; 10:21 p.m. EDT
Al Qaeda Fingered in LAX Attack
A senior Israeli official said Saturday that an Arab gunman's deadly rampage at Los Angeles International Airport on July 4th had "all the hallmarks of the al-Qaeda organization."
The unnamed official, described by Agence France Presse as "close to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon," said that he had "no doubt" the shooting by Egyptian immigrant Hesham Mohamed Hadayet was a "terrorist" act targeting El Al, Israel's national airline.
"The official however added that there was probably no link to the Palestinian conflict," the French news service reported, "but rather that it bore all the hallmarks of the al-Qaeda organization."
In separate comments late Saturday, former Israeli ambassador to the United Nation's Dore Gold said there's a history of Egyptian nationals like Hadayat being recruited for al Qaeda-connected terrorist operations.
"We've seen Egyptian nationals who have been mobilized into radical Islamic groups before," Gold told WABC's John Batchelor and Paul Alexander.
"You've had the (9-11) operation in New York, the first World Trade Center attack, the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane in New York; all usually done by Egyptian jihadists or organizations," he explained.
"And, of course, since many of these organizations have operated against the government of (Egyptian) President Mubarak through Ayman Al-Zawahiri, who eventually merged with Osama bin Laden, we've seen Egyptian nationals involved in al Qaeda," Gold said.
"But Ali at the same time he was working for Bin Laden was also working as a full time FBI operative out of Sacramento, California from 1992- 1998. Last year representatives of the FBI and CIA claimed to Congress that they just lost track of Ali while Ali was working for Bin Laden."
Come, my friend, fly the friendly skies of Southern California:
Richard R. Baker - Hired As Federal Security Director - New ONT Security chief got negative review
"Baker was a police officer in Wichita, Kan., for six years before joining the FBI in 1978. He worked at the bureau's Oklahoma City office in the 1990s, during which he helped coordinate the investigation of the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building.
That investigation helped teach Baker how to work with several agencies at once, he said. The lesson will come in handy when he takes the reins at ONT, Baker said."
...Transportation agency officials would not say whether the issue was taken into consideration when Baker was chosen for the ONT post by John Magaw, who heads the agency."
As the special agent in charge in the Oklahoma City Division, he supervised a squad of special agents and maintained oversight of investigations in both criminal and intelligence programs. After the bombing of the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City, Baker was the on-scene commander during the preliminary hours of the disaster and established, organized and supervised investigations at the command post.
Capital's FBI chief removed from post
"James Maddock, the high-profile and controversial head of Sacramento's FBI office, was unceremoniously removed from his post late Tuesday and placed on administrative leave.
...The inspectors determined that Maddock, head of the office for three years, needed to be replaced because of his handling of the Yosemite sightseer murder case..
"...Richard R. Baker, a 22-year FBI veteran currently assigned to FBI headquarters, has been appointed interim special agent in charge pending a permanent selection.
...Regarded as a counter-terrorism expert, Maddock was a veteran of the Oklahoma City bombing investigation."
Thanks for the additional research and info on FBI agents Maddock and Baker.
Maddock and Baker are NOT America's finest. They really solved the OKC case didn't they? What many don't know about the ME connection to OKC that Baker and Maddock covered up will get Americans killed. But, they were just carring out unlawful orders form Freeh and Reno-the Nuremberg defense. But Bush, AShcroft and Mueller say do not go there, put it behind us.
Should we sleep well knowing that the FBI is supposed to protect us from the sleeper cells they allowed to be created under Ali Mohammed and still will not roll up?
The FBI still gets their pensions, bigger budgets and more powers while we get less freedom and less safety.
But our wonderful politicians in Congress will make it better won't they? They say they will, but we could be dead at the hands of more terrorist attacks by the time they ever do anything adequate to cleanup failed personnel and policies at the FBI and DOJ.
But wait, Mueller and AShcroft and the White House say America should inlist the American Muslim Coucil and Hamas terrorists in the US to fight the war on terrorism.
Jayna Davis has told David Schippers that I am too hard on and critical of certain of her personal FBI agent friends (like Dan Vogel and perhaps Baker and Maddock), too anti-FBI misconduct and therefore am not politically correct and should be ignored about the OKC bombing according to what I am told by reliable friends I know who know Schippers.
In my informed opinion (from sources and my own interactions) Schippers and Davis want the FBI reformed but they want the reforms of some of their FBI agent friends that are also culpable and who won't reform the FBI enough the right way. The FBI should not be allowed to have FBI agents reform the FBI alone. In my opinion Schippers and Davis are way too close to the FBI to rely on them to get the really adequate reforms needed in the FBI.
There is also some tremendous info in the replies on this thread from Uncle Bill.
Residents at first warmly greeted their neighbours but gave up when they got little or no response. Late in the evening people would come and pick them up 'in really fancy nice cars, brand-new Lincolns'."
Hesham Mohamed Hadayet
Neighbors Describe Gunman as Aloof, Devout
"He called his service Five Star Limo--not related to the similarly named Five Star Limousine of Huntington Beach. State records show he began with a six-passenger Lincoln. The next year, he added a nine-passenger limousine."
Here's Hesham Mohamed Hadayet's website, though it's shut down now.
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Corporate Billing available...
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Phone: (949) 653-6800
Fax: (949) 733-8684Address: 5 Willowrun, Irvine, CA 92604
There's No Substitute for the BEST...
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That helps explain why Eqypt is a completely disfunctional country.
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