Posted on 07/05/2002 5:34:43 PM PDT by Pokey78
Some require even less. For example, my wife began to steadily lose weight only after reducing her intake to below 20 gms of carbohydrates per day. She also has to strictly watch her calories.
Arioch, yes that is really reaching because if carbs were essential to survivial, then one would die *WHEN* deprived of them, not 5 generations later. That makes no sense. One does die, however, when deprived of protein and fat. And Alaskans are certainly not dead by any stretch, just a little unhealthier, sicker and fatter with the advent of the typical high carb American food pyramid diet [per recent studies]. There is untold evidence of people surviving just fine without carbs.
Even so, noone here is advocating a NO carb diet and sees the value in the proper amount of UNREFINED carbs. There are some nutrients in vegetables that can't be found in meat, eggs, etc. No one denies that. Certainly NOT as nutritionally rich, but important to overall health.
Further, the Asians have a diet that consists of very little refined carbs and they do not have the obesity that we do. They are certainly not extinct! Nor are the French or Italian, who have moderate to high fat diets. You are basically claiming that any culture that has a high fat diet is extinct - or on thier way out - yet you produce NONE. Not one.
So maybe you aren't convinced despite NUMEROUS examples and studies but that is really your own blindess and stubbornness. None are so blind than those who refuse to see. It's not my job to convince you against your will and against all reason and logic. That is your issue entirely.
Numerous cardiologists, and researchers at prestigious universities like University of Pennsylvania, Duke University, Purdue, Harvard, Science Magazine among many ARE convinced and I think I will stick with them. In fact, my health warrants it.
Senator Parduk has stated that NO pro athlete uses this diet and was met with scorn. The fact is that pro athletes are the pinnacle of fitness and should be emulated.
He was met with scorn because it is a bogus point. Most people are not body builders. One does not judge a diet by WHO uses it but by the merits of the diet. I know of none who are on Weight Watchers or The Zone, however, that does not mean they are bad diets. If you are going to judge a diet on THIS bogus standard you have erected, then you have to HAIL the Atkins diet because Arnold Schwarzenegger is on it and writes about it in his book.
I do find it curious how my father managed to eat stuff fried in lard, real butter and eggs, fatty meats, and every sweet under the sun all of his life, but was always rail-thin. I ate watered-down margarine instead of butter, corn oil instead of lard, and baked (fill in the blank) instead of fried (fill in the blank), but was still the tubbo in the family.
I hate my genes.
Basically, it the diet that most of the world ate until the advent of the low fat/high carb fad: whole, unprocessed foods. What it comes down to is you eliminate refined carbs, such as white and wheat breads, sugar, sugary fruit drinks and processed or chemical laden meats.
My menu includes meat, fish, cheese, eggs, vegetables, nuts, beans and low glycemic fruits. Starchy fruits and veggies are not good for you and should be eaten in moderation because they are very high in sugar.
This is not a starvation diet that is low in fat or calories so you can live on it forever and never get hungry. I would suggest checking out his website to get more information but if you decide to do it, it's real important to buy the book.
And you don't have to be a weightlifter, but Atkins does recommend exercise. Weightlifting is great, though!
BTW - can you tell me which pro athlete follows this regimen?
Proud, overweight people need to completely eliminate sugar becuase sugar causes carb cravings and metabolism problems. Sugar is junk food and is not good for you at all.
Further, if your doctor knows of ONE CASE of kidney failure caused by low carb could you please tell him to call a press conference immediately and present his evidence? If this is so, it will be the ONLY documented case on record since there are none. There is not one single study that proves such thing. The public should be warned immediately!
As usual the opponents of this diet have to resort to lies and use hyperbole. And I have always found you to be level headed and have an unusually good sense of humor until this thread.
oh puhleeese, you are out of control.
Zon: Just why do you think Atkins is a huckster and is it a primary point of his or some tangential point he made that you arrived at your "huckster" conclusion? 284
Well, it's just from personal experience.
What was it about your personal experience that you concluded that Atkins is a huckster? Also, do you conclude that other products and services that you try out but don't meet your needs are created by hucksters?
huh? since when? Cheese has as much protein as fat. Your average unprocessed cup of cheese is 33 grams of fat and 31 grams of protein. That's alot of protein considering that the average person has 85 grams a day total. Even so, in RECENT renditions of Atkins books he does limit cheese because of the high protein. It used to be on the unlimited list. Too much protein is as bad as too much carbs.
Yeah, but I bet you look ridiculous in Armani.
Let me guess - you guys are Mac owners - I've never seen such militancy...
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