Father of El Al attacker former Egyptian army general

times india ^ | 7/5/02

[knak]

CAIRO: The father of Egyptian gunman Hisham Mohammed Hadayet who opened fire at a check-in counter of Israeli carrier El Al in Los Angeles was a general in Egypt's army, his neighbors said Friday.

The former general, Ahmad Ali Hadayet, lives in the family household in the central Abbassiya district in Cairo, an AFP reporter said.

The information was confirmed by security sources here, but the family refused to talk to reporters.

On Thursday, Hisham Hadayet opened fire at the check-in counter of Israel's national airline El Al killing a 20-year-old female clerk and a middle-aged man, before being shot dead himself by an El Al security agent.

"I have known Hisham for several years. He was a normal person, he was religious but did not go often to the mosque," one of his neighbors said, requesting anonymity.

Hadayet's wife and two children returned to Egypt in June, security sources said. They added that his wife has been questioned, without elaborating.

FBI officials said that Hadayet was on their watch list, without saying why. They added he had lived in the United States since 1992 and worked as a limousine driver.

Egyptian officials kept mum Friday after the FBI revealed one of their fellow nationals carried out the Los Angeles attack. Officials at the interior ministry refused to comment when questioned by reporters.

Lawyer Montasser al-Zayet, who defends Egyptian Islamists in court, said Hadayet was not known to be a member of any Islamist movement.

[backhoe]

Yes, the "Sleepers are Waking," aren't they?

[Grampa Dave]

At my age I have zero time for very liberal friends or to even talk to them. I have to make all of my remaining moments, lib free.

[Former Proud Canadian]

Here is the link to the New Orleans shooting. Another islamist. Nothing going on here folks, move along.

[aristeides]

Hadayet's wife and two children returned to Egypt in June.

If he was on the watch list, shouldn't that have been a red flag?

By the way, if he was on the watch list, how can they say with a straight face that this was not terrorism?

[Shermy]

Woman Shot Inside New Orleans Airport (mAY 22)

[Grampa Dave]

See my reply #21 on this thread about this red flag re the family flying back to Islama Terrorland with daddy: (link). Then read a few remarks to and from me after thread #21.

[aristeides]

Of course, I find it highly suspicious that the news media witheld the identity of the gunman for over 8 hours.

They withheld his identity until the July 4th festivities were over.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the link!

It is obvious that they know that the passenger ticketing/luggage on board areas are vulnerable.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

If the children of the US friendly elites of the moderate arab states are twisted, where does that leave our strategy to win over the 'hearts and minds' of the arab populations.

First you flatten and demoralize them...........then you show them the path to recovery.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks! I was being grampa the day before and after that posting. My grand daughter will not allow me to get on the computer. She will turn it off. :)

[nicko]

possible theory- the attack was a distraction/diversion to get the passangers outside- an dummy EMS vehicle loaded with explosives was supposed to arrive on scene and explode-all the elements were there; large crowd, international exposure, media already on site...the disconnect was the inability of the explosives to be prepositioned before the area was sealed off...

[FReepaholic]

Questions:

(these may have been answered in news articles, etc that I haven't seen)

1.Wife and kid returned to Egypt in June. Why? Domestic problems?

2.Was attacker in line for a flight? If so, did he actually think he'd get through security with firearms?

[Aggie Mama]

I think someone on one of the other thread said that his Muslim neighbor sent his wife and children home for the summer. Wow.

[hunter112]

It'll be interesting to see the kind of "cooperation" the Egyptian gov't is going to give us on this. If we get the same stiff-arm that we got from the Saudis after the Khobar Towers, then it's a good a reason as any to cut off the 3 billion dollars a year in Camp David Accord aid.

I hope the ragheads in BFE protest any cooperation their gov't gives to ours, it will show them as the true "friends" they have been!

[Donna Lee Nardo]

ROTFLMAO!

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

That's true. I found out from Grampa Dave and several sources confirmed it. The guy sent his family away to Egypt before this happened. If it was a family vacation, why didn't daddy go with them?

[Shermy]

I think the New Orleans guy was just a crazy Southerner. Using religion was just part of his insanity.

Man Accused in Airport Shooting Declared Incompetent for Trial 06/20/2002

GRETNA, La. -- The Florida man accused of fatally shooting a woman inside the New Orleans international airport last month was declared incompetent to stand trial.

Patrick Gott, 43, of Pensacola, would be unable to assist an attorney in his defense and is a danger to himself and others, Judge Robert Burns said on Wednesday. Burns ruled after listening to the testimony of Dr. Richard Richoux, a psychiatrist who examined Gott at the Jefferson Parish Correctional Center.

Gott could pose a threat to others because he suffers from paranoia and misinterprets other people's intentions, Richoux said.

On May 22, Gott allegedly fired a 12-gauge shotgun in the airport terminal, hitting Amy Michaelson, 45, a California resident and U.S. Department of Defense employee, and an airline employee whom authorities have not identified. Michaelson died several days later. The other victim was shot in the hand.

Gott later said he was a Muslim and got angry when people made fun of his turban, police said.

Gott will be held at the parish prison, with bond set at $1 million, until a bed becomes available at the East Feliciana Forensic Center in Jackson, prosecutor Walter Amstutz said. Gott's mental status will be re-examined in six months, Amstutz said.

Burns filled in for Judge Ronald Bodenheimer, who was suspended from the bench by the state Supreme Court after his arrest on federal drug and conspiracy charges.

Patrick Gott

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I remeber he was arrested in a loud Hawaiian shirt. Seemed insane, in the usual meaning. HOWEVER, the woman he blew away was a part of the Defense Dept. Hmmmmm......

The woman, one of two people wounded in the shooting Wednesday, has been identified only as a U.S. Defense Department employee from California in her 40s.

[a_Turk]

So I sent my kids to Turkey to visit with my parents for the summer. So what?

Three Muslim Cops just got killed in Turkey while flushing out a Hezbollah terrorist. They died while avoiding shooting the bastards wife and kids.

So what if I am Muslim, so what if my cops are Muslim? So what if my Muslim Armed Forces compadres are in Tampa Florida working side by side with your Christian Military personnel? So what if the Israeli Defence Forces train with my Muslim Turkish Military and your Christian Army?

Stop thinking that you're faced with Islam. You're faced with terrorists, just as we are. Get closer to the picture, it's high resolution.

[Former Proud Canadian]

You might be right about the insanity BUT, is the 20th hijacker Mousaye insane? He seems to be acting very strangely. What kind of insanity does it take to hijack an airliner and fly it into a building?

I think these people are all insane.

[tomahawk]

But the FBI filled a spot with a minority. What a crowning achievement in meeting one of their AA "goals"! Now protecting us from the terrorists, that's something they will work on after getting those goals achieved.