Posted on 07/05/2002 10:22:20 AM PDT by madfly
Wednesday, June 26, 2002NewsMax.com - PHOENIX – Self-described "environmentalists" have opposed forest management programs that could have prevented wildfires such as those burning thousands of acres in Arizona and Colorado, the new chairman of the Western Governors Association said Tuesday.President Bush also made a mocking reference Tuesday to the extremist so-called Greens, who would better be dubbed Grays, in "honor" of the ashen color of the land where pine forests once thrived.
Speaking to reporters after an association meeting, Gov. Judy Martz, R-Mont., said as incoming chairman, her priority would be reducing the threat of wildfires to communities and the environment.
"Regardless of our political and philosophical differences, it's imperative that we all join together to act responsibly in preserving forest health, to protect families, wildlife, fisheries, our ecosystem and our economies," Martz said.
Responding to a reporter's question, the Montana Republican said she was shaken by the thousands of people fleeing their homes in eastern Arizona because of a 331,000-acre wildfire. Better management policies are needed in the nation's forests, she said.
'Environmental Terrorism'
"The environment needs to be taken care of," she said. "When I see people running from their homes going to a shelter and now being there, some of them, over a week, I call this environmental terrorism, and it's a terrorism that we have not managed the forest well enough.
"These people who want to object need to come to the table. There's got to be some balance."
Asked later if she meant self-styled environmental activists had contributed to the wildfire threat in the West, Martz said their appeals had delayed action on forest cleanup programs.
"This is caused by many years of appeals, and the appeals do not come from the ones that want to have forest health, so the answer to the question is quite obvious," she said.
Martz was asked if her answer meant she was blaming them.
Wackos 'Played a Great Role in Stopping Forest Health'
"In my eyes, they played a great role in stopping forest health, but I don't call them terrorists. Our environment is in a terrorism mode right now, but I do not call those people terrorists. I make that quite clear."
Arizona Gov. Jane Hull said Sunday, "Mother Nature is saying to Arizona, to the West, that we have to clean up these forests. I hope the message gets across that we need to clean these forests."
She said: "The policies that are coming from the East Coast, that are coming from the environmentalists, that say we don't need to log, we don't need to thin our forests, are absolutely ridiculous. Nobody on the East Coast knows how to manage these fires and I for one have had it."
Fox News Channel reported this week that the area around devasted Show Low, Ariz., once had many lumber mills, all shuttered now, the jobs they provided all gone, thanks to lawsuits by "environmentalists."
Show Low resident Marc Ridenour, forced to leave his home because of the fires, is furious at the groups of leftists that describe themselves as "environmental."
'Architects of This Catastrophe'
"They helped set the stage for this," he told the Associated Press. "Spotted-owl huggers were the grand architects of this catastrophe."
Craig Gehrke, described by the Associated Press as a "forest expert" with Wilderness Society, seemed to have little sympathy for those whose lives were devastated by the fires.
Tough Luck
"They're kidding themselves if they think they can control all the forces in the forest," he said. "In drought years, forests are going to burn."
Earlier this week, a spokesman for Sierra Club claimed that the conservation group had never opposed prescribed burns, one of the common methods used to control undergrowth. Sean Cosgrove said the group did favor other methods to reduce wildland fire danger.
Cosgrove endorsed programs such as the Forest Service's Firewise program, which is intended to educate and assist the increasing numbers of people moving to the country about how to safeguard their homes.
Not that those programs do much good when huge fires are consuming thousands of acres.
Jim Cundiff, 52, was waiting to find out if flames had wiped out his home in Linden.
'No More Trees to Hug'
"There's a fairly well-meaning but totally ignorant group of people in this community who think you can manage the environment in a hands-off manner, but these people don't live out here," he said. "Don't come up here in designer clothes and an SUV and tell me you love the woods. There's no more trees to hug."
The president, on his way to a Canadian meeting of world leaders, went thousands of miles out of his way Tuesday to visit the site of the Arizona fires. The mainstream media are calling it "his first visit as president to the site of a NATURAL disaster," though human neglect, especially lawsuits by "environmentalists," contributed to the fiasco.
A Needed Change: 'Wise Forest Policy'
"Listen, we got a lot of work to do to make sure the Forest Service has got wise forest policy, to make sure, to maintain the forests so that they're healthy and viable and not become kindling boxes," Bush emphasized to cheers as he addressed residents at Round Valley High School in Eagar.
However, Joe Allbaugh, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, evaded a reporter's question about thinning the forests to reduce the threat of disastrous fires.
'Experts'
"Leave forest management to the experts," the FEMA director said, presumably with a straight face.
At the Phoenix meeting, the Western governors discussed the destructive and early wildfire season and their campaign to implement a 10-year strategy to improve forest health. The governors and the secretaries of agriculture and interior signed the agreement last month in an Idaho ceremony.
At the news conference, Gov. Dirk Kempthorne, R-Idaho, said some environmental groups joined with state, federal and tribal governments in developing the 10-year management plan.
'Look at Prevention'
"The key is not to always be looking at suppression, but to look at prevention," he said. "With the 10-year plan that we signed in Idaho City, Idaho, we have a path forward reducing the fuel load so we won't have to see these sort of infernos taking place in all of our states."
Federal funding for programs to remove forest undergrowth have been increased since a destructive wildfire burned more than 200 homes at Los Alamos, N.M., two years ago. Yet critics contend that appeals and lawsuits lodged by self-described environmentalists have slowed implementation and fueled disaster.
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The next form of domestic terrorism will come from the environmentalists, the anti-abortionists, and the PETA groups.
And they will use violence to get what they want.
Finally we have a governor with the guts to stand up against Club Sierra and other enviralists and label them as terrorists. I have been calling them Enviral Terrorists for years. Now that term is being used by more and more people!
The good governor's comments in this thread!
'Environmental Terrorism'
"The environment needs to be taken care of," she said. "When I see people running from their homes going to a shelter and now being there, some of them, over a week, I call this environmental terrorism, and it's a terrorism that we have not managed the forest well enough.
"These people who want to object need to come to the table. There's got to be some balance."
Asked later if she meant self-styled environmental activists had contributed to the wildfire threat in the West, Martz said their appeals had delayed action on forest cleanup programs.
"This is caused by many years of appeals, and the appeals do not come from the ones that want to have forest health, so the answer to the question is quite obvious," she said.
Thank you Madfly! As I replied to you on another thread it is time to make these Enviral Nazi Terrorists from hell as popular as other Nazis in America. It is time for conservative Americans to rip off the phoney cloak of respectability off these Enviral Terrorists so the rest of America can see how evil and dangerous these Enviral terrorists are to the rest of us!
1. Big story for next two weeks.
2. Congress holds hearings.
3. Nothing is done since we in the West have little or no political power.
4. The next big fire is so out of control that even the Nat Guard won't help.
Sigh...same old crap.
Who really thinks anything will change?
Hull was hosting a 3-day Western Governors' Conference in Phoenix at the time. The 2 days prior, she hosted a Border Governors' conference with Mexican guvnahs from border states. So Arizona had plenty of officials from the West here, just and hour and a half away from a 325,000 sq mile fire that was 0% contained at that time.She left the conference to visit the fire site and returned to the Conference to report the devastation to the other gubnahs. Whatever their agenda was, took a back seat to this tragic environmental crime.
And no, I do not support abortion and expect for Roe v. Wade to be overturned and states to decide what should and should not happen.
July 3, 2002
Forest Subcommittee Announces July 11 Oversight Hearing on Cost, Causes and Implications of 2002 Wildfire Season
Will include forthright analysis of pros/cons of aggressive forest management
Washington, D.C. - The Forest & Forest Health Subcommittee will hold an oversight hearing on Thursday, July 11 at 10 a.m. in Room 1334 Longworth HOB on “Wildfire on the National Forest: An update on the 2002 Wildland Fire Season.”
Witnesses from the Interior and Agriculture departments are expected to testify regarding the nearly $400 million spent year-to-date on fire suppression. Scientists from Colorado and Arizona will be invited to testify regarding the explosive nature of this year’s fires and the available options for forest management.
Statement from Chairman James V. Hansen:
“We’re less than halfway through the summer and already the Administration has spent nearly every firefighting dollar it has on the fires in Arizona and Colorado. Meanwhile, five large, new fires have broken out in just the last 24 hours in Colorado, California, Wyoming and Utah. We’re out of money. Homes are threatened and lives are in jeopardy in some part of virtually every western state. This crisis will only get worse between now and autumn.”
Statement from Forest & Forest Health Chairman Scott McInnis:
"For those who have doubted or downplayed the seriousness of the wildfire epidemic on our national forests, this summer has been a rude awakening. 2002 is well on its way to becoming among the most destructive wildfire
seasons in American history. And if this fire season has taught us anything, it is that our attempts to reduce the threat of catastrophic wildfire on the national forests are falling woefully short.
"My goals for the hearing are three-fold: find out what additional resources the government needs this year to protect the many western communities in the crosshairs of wildfire, begin the process of separating the junk-science from the real-science when it comes to managing our national forests, and press policymakers and scientist to find out what it's going to take to get out ahead of this crisis in the long-term."
Hansen is retiring. He is chairman and he's the one who went before Congress last year to decry the eco-nuts and their lawsuits.
U.S. House of Representatives
Committee on Resources
1324 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-6201
107th Congress
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Thats it!!!
These environmental groups are COMMUNISTS! China under Mao had these 10 year programs.
Devolve ownership and responsibility for our Federally-owned lands to the States and Localities...let the hometown folks make the decisions and we're much more likely to get a Common Sense approach.
FReegards...MUD
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