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Gas Drillers Tap Coal Beds
USA TODAY ^
| Friday, July 5, 2002
| George Hager
Posted on 07/05/2002 7:58:31 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Currently, there are thousands of wells in Wyoming. Environmental/EPA opposition is increasing daily and has been used to limit the number of wells drilled in Montana portion of the Powder River Basin. Please give support to Mike Taylor's Senate campaign against Max Baucus for Montana's Senate seat. Taylor supports CBM development, Baucus does not.
To: BOBTHENAILER
This is an interesting and educational issue. Thanks for posting it.
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posted on
07/05/2002 8:13:26 AM PDT
by
Migraine
To: BOBTHENAILER
Pre WWII big northern cities like NYC got all their gas from coal. The gas was "baked" out of the coal. The leftover product, coke, was then marketed to home owners as fuel, Koppers Koke being the leading brand name.
The German Uboat attacks on the East Coast led to the construction of the Big Inch pipeline used to transport petroleum products (or possibly crude) during the war. The pipeline was converted to gas after the war and coal gas and Koppers Koke disappeared.
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posted on
07/05/2002 8:20:38 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: Dog Gone; EternalVigilance; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeeknMing; Sabertooth; floriduh voter; madfly; ...
Big National Security Energy Ping. Current estimates (conservative) are that there is enough gas in the Powder River Basin coals to power California for twenty to thirty years.
During the senate debate on the Energy Bill, almost all the opponents to ANWR, would utter the same refrain: "We're not opposed to drilling, we just don't want to see it in this 'Pristine' wilderness area. Well, it seems their enviro buddies don't want in the Powder either. Currently stalled are thousands of well permits from a federal lawsuit by, you guessed it, Powder River Basin Resource Council, Wyoming Outdoor Council and Biodiversity Associates.
Please note the "footprint" taken up in the picture of your average wellhead. Each well is capable of producing between 150,000 to 500,000 cubic feet of gas per day. An average home uses about 150,000 cubic feet of gas per year for heating, cooling and electricity.
To: Migraine
This is an interesting and educational issue. Thanks for posting it.My pleasure. I'm going to try and keep posting articles like this one to reinforce in everyone's mind, the fact that environmental groups will never stop anywhere in their attempts to slow energy development.
To: aculeus
Interesting information, thanks for sharing it. Coal bed methane development throughout America has huge potential.
To: BOBTHENAILER
Enviro-Nazi bump!
To: BOBTHENAILER
We have to break through this. Congress needs to adjust the jurisdiction of the courts in this matter.
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posted on
07/05/2002 8:38:12 AM PDT
by
hchutch
To: BOBTHENAILER
Definitely bookmarked and BUMPED!
Thank you, sir!
EV
To: hchutch
Congress needs to adjust the jurisdiction of the courts in this matter.Couldn't agree more. The usage of enviro-lawsuits has to stop.
To: BOBTHENAILER
"The fact that environmental groups will never stop anywhere in their attempts to slow energy development."
If you don't like environmental groups' agendas, fine. But what's your response to the actual issues brought up? On the face of it, this kind of action very likely may drop the water tables, and thus harm agriculture in the region. And it's a documented fact that using water with too many salts in them (whether the salts be naturally occuring, or from fertilizer runoff) can reduce or destroy the productivity of agricultural land.
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posted on
07/05/2002 8:43:09 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: BOBTHENAILER; ~EagleNebula~; floriduh voter; The Shrew; backhoe; IronJack; Keyes For President; ...
Another example of how the Daschle Democrats are impeding our national security in the area of energy.
To: RonF
Agriculture? Have you seen that country?
If we were talking about Iowa here, I might give some credence to your concerns, but the Powder River Basin is hardly prime farmland.
Real farmers farming real agricultural land can't even get a decent price for their crop because of government policies...the impact of any crops grown in that region on our agricultural productivity as a nation is negligable, to say the least.
To: EternalVigilance; BOBTHENAILER
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posted on
07/05/2002 8:50:21 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: RonF
And it's a documented fact that using water with too many salts in them (whether the salts be naturally occuring, or from fertilizer runoff) can reduce or destroy the productivity of agricultural land.Try telling that to most of the ranchers in the area, ace. You sit wherever in your high and mighty seat and spout sh!t you know nothing about. I've been there, am involved in production there, have friends working there and I know the water situation. The ranchers welcome it for irrigation and stock tanks. Several companies have built small ponds and lakes for ranchers that are now stocked with fish.
That's some real bad water huh, expert.
To: BOBTHENAILER
Big National Security Energy Ping. Current estimates (conservative) are that there is enough gas in the Powder River Basin coals to power California for twenty to thirty years.The enviro-nut NIMBYs don't WANT clean-burning natural gas to supply energy: Airport, power plant at odds.
The heck with the dimbulb Kalifornicators -- there are 49 other states that will welcome this source of fuel.
To: BOBTHENAILER
deposits thousands of gallons of water - drinkable but a little too salty for irrigation - onto the bone dry high prairie. A small distillation plant would solve this problem wouldn't it? You could then used the water for irrigation if you wished.
a.cricket
To: aculeus
That process which you refer to is called "coal gasificiation." Coal, being a hydrocarbon fossil fuel, exudes natural gas. Tapping the gas given off by the coal can be an important local source of the "clean burning" fossil fuel.
To: another cricket
Heck, if it's THAT wide open, you can use a solar still to purify the water, let the tree-huggers complain about THAT. . .
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posted on
07/05/2002 9:33:29 AM PDT
by
Salgak
To: backhoe
Excellent point and comparison.
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