El Al Pilot Reported Missile Explosion Next to Plane

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El Al Pilot Reported Missile Explosion Next to Plane

(IsraelNN.com) An El Al pilot reported what appeared to be a surface-to-air missile exploding next to a flight. The plane was heading from Tel Aviv to Russia. The flight landed without incident in Moscow.

El Al officials reported with certainty the plane was not in military airspace, but in a regular international commercial lane.

[Cachelot]

Larry's views can be summed up by the following:

No, actually, that is a simplification but an understandable one - if that was all it was, Larry would be somewhat normal.

However: Larry's views include, for example, a somewhat unusual take on an event that took place during the holocoust. A German ship with nearly a thousand Jewish refugees was turned away from America and was sent home to Germany, where those Jews subsequently perished. Larry's view of this event is that it was all natural - the Jews couldn't expect Christian America to let them in: "What if there had been another Trotsky among them?"

He then went into a tailspin about how some Jews had escaped to South America and spent the war making money.

Other indicators of Larry's true view of the world can be found in the fact that he was, at one point, slinging the word "holocaustism" everywhere. He claimed to have "invented" the word. However, a google search shows the word to be a favourite of all kinds of holocoust-denial outlets. It's of course possible that Lied invented the word, in which case he's probably Dr. Pierce, Ernst Zundel, or some other figure that this crowd tend to listen to :).

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[JMJ333]

But I don't CARE what the Israelis have done. And neither do most non-commuinists...

Oooh boy! That is a very touchy subject at FR and will get you banned, but communism is at the heart of the argument for many, especially the eastern European freepers. In fact, the argument goes back to the bolshevik revolution and that Israel being founded as a soviet satellite state. Jim has made it clear he doesn't want that debate argued here, but it is the crux of the argument to many outspoken against Israel--just trying to explain the mindset.

[timestax]

OH yeah!!!

[JMJ333]

Do have the link saved to that quote, and to the tidbit about the ship being sent back--I'm not doubting the event happened, I'm JUST not familiar with it and would like to read about it. What was the name of the ship?

I do know about Kolyma, which was basically a gulag for political and religious dissidents in Siberia. I was thinking about it because of the ship you mentioned.

A special fleet of slave ships was organized in Vladivostok, and carried hundreds of thousands to their fates. The vessels of the fleet were fitted out to enable the maximum load of prisoners in the minimum space. A typical slave ship was the Dhzurma. Erected around the walls of its cargo holds were wooden structures of tiered bunks, four high, while the floor served as the fifth. Each of the bunks accommodated five men in lying position. Prisoners had to slide in feet first with their heads facing the passages to avoid suffocation. If even these cramped places were lacking, men had to lay in the passage-ways, and these one-way voyages would last six to eleven days.

Sanitary arrangements on board consisted of two 50-gallon barrels called parashi, which were emptied into the sea. In bad weather, the barrels would spill, adding to the already thick stench below decks. An outside latrine was also available, but only accommodated a few prisoners at a time, and the lines were always long. Barbed wire surrounded the outside latrine to prevent prisoners from jumping into the sea.

[JMJ333]

Hi there!

[LarryLied]

they are on the forefront in fighting the West's mortal enemy - namely islam.

But that is not, nor should it be, U.S. policy. Yes, nearly all Muslims are against Jews. We don't have to turn them all against Americans. We have over 10,000 troops in the Gulf. They are there because the local Muslims want the nuts taken out. Israel could never do that. Arabs would not allow it.

There is a world of difference between the war Israel has been fighting for 50 years and our war on terror. We make them one and our great-great-great grandkids will curse our names.

Islam isn't going away. We are not going to stamp out a faith a billion people share. We fight the ones against us and live with those who want to live in peace. That is all we can do.

[timestax]

bump

[LarryLied]

Over a month ago JimRob or Admin Moderator asked us all to cool the rhetoric. As soon as I read that, I stopped. But on thread after thread, you or someone else brings it up again. I see comments I don't even remember making being reposted on threads which have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I have never replied before because I respect the wishes of those who run this forum, hoped the carrying arguments from thread to thread would go away if I ignored it and didn't want to get into another a flame war.

I have never linked to or posted from a site this forum has asked us not to. And now you post a slew of them you found on google. Constantly, you assert I get information from sites I've never heard of. Why are you giving these creep publicity? I don't.

[null and void]

The legal arms trade of Israel is bad enough, the underground trade is causing problems all over the world. If there are players bigger than the Israelis, I would like to know who they are

Ummmm, China?

[null and void]

I have my asbestos on if you feel the need to flame me for what you consider a dumb reply.

*click* ... *click* ... *click* ...

Nope, can't seem to get my bic enthused enough to flame you....

[bray]

Has any leaders of the religion of peace ever spoken of a peaceful solution to the Isreali problem??? No, all you hear is the illegal occupation which is codeword for Isreal's existance. Islam is the religion of hatred! Time to begin the racial profiling and removal of these rodents.

Pray for GW and America

[Cachelot]

I see comments I don't even remember making

Anything in particular you don't "remember" saying? Chances are I can help you out, as I generally both archive the stuff and bookmark it, since I have no intention of letting you off the hook.

And now you post a slew of them you found on google.

DON't get your knickers in a twist. I'm just illustrating a search for your favourite word, which you claimed to have invented. Or is this something that escapes your memory?

[null and void]

Has any leaders of the religion of peace ever spoken of a peaceful solution to the Isreali problem???

Other than the total annihilation of Israel and all Joooooos anywhere (Which would, I guess result in a sort of peace - the quiet of the grave) I can't say I've ever heard of any of the Billion or so Møøse Limbs even speaking of the possibility that a peaceful solution could exist. Maybe I just missed it...

[LarryLied]

Ummmm, China?

Yeah, and Clinton didn't apply the sanctions required by law when they shipped 500 tons of the chemicals used to make VX to Iran about 5 years ago. Bush stopped some of it. But it is difficult to know what they are up to.

Still, the big stuff comes from the Ukraine. PBS Frontline ran a good piece on Leonid Minin's deals with Liberia. Didn't see a word about it anywhere else in the US media.

[Cachelot]

Do have the link saved to that quote, and to the tidbit about the ship being sent back

Here you go - the thread isn't all that long. I don't remember the ship's name offhand, I'll probably have to go back to the book or some history volume. Or it may be on the net. We'll see.

Anyway, I see LL's little spin about Jews escaping to South America comes before his take on the sending-back thing.

French Jews...

[JMJ333]

Thanks for the link. I will read it.

[Alouette]

Still, the big stuff comes from the Ukraine. PBS Frontline ran a good piece on Leonid Minin's deals with Liberia.

Very interesting stuff but what does this guy have to do with Jooooz? He is a Ukrainian gentile.

[Alouette]

If you have any other names of those who might be invovled in selling missiles to anyone who has the cash, tell us.

Yeah, after going to that Frontline site, I got some names for you:

Jean Bernard Lasnaud
Monzer Al Kassar
Sarkis Soghanalian
Victor Bout

You didn't mention them, being that they are not Joooooz. But then, neither is Minin.

[LarryLied]

Unlike a certain crowd on this forum, a person's race, religion and heritage are irrelevant to me. I do not study names so I can ferret out what group someone might be in.I care about what people do, not what they are. Bout is the one I was trying to recall. Thanks.