English And Welsh Are Races Apart

BBC ^ | 6-30-2002

[muawiyah]

Not a thing. The names are in different languages and have totally dissimilar meanings. Besides, Brittany was a going concern and fully civilized while the Russians (and their Anglo-Saxon cousins) were still sitting around in skin tents picking lice.

Anything else?

[LostTribe]

There were various salt mines around Salzburg (salt city) and they furnished salt to the Roman Empire using CELTIC slave labor.

The really big salt mine was at Hallstadt, not far away, a fascinating place to visit. Aside from some dating problems, this is a decent brief article on Hallstadt. Click on my FR LostTRibe Profile below for more...

[Torie]

If Angles and Saxons were Celts, why the different genetics per this article? It does not surprise me that Anglo Saxons came from Frisland, since Frisian is the only other language in the English language family other than English. It is parked there rather than under German.

[dr_who]

I think it was the vikings who were into using the Russians as slav labor.

[muawiyah]

The Angles and Saxons were not Celts. They were Germans. Previously, in past millenia, the Germans were tributaries or slaves to the Danube River Celts.

In fact, there are those who claim that the German tribes and peoples were all servants to the Gaelic speaking people wherever they might be found - rather like the old south where slaves were black and owners were white.

There was a massive German slave revolt against the Celtic owners. The Greeks reported on this although we have few details. The Celts had to relocate from areas North of the Danube to areas South of the Danube. These are the folks who moved into Italy and Switzerland. Julius Caeser in later centuries relocated some of them to what is now Belgium (Wallonia).

In a far earlier time the Celts were driven from Western Anatolia and from Bulgaria by Greek Barbarians (See: Homer). The seagoing Celts simply sailed South to the Mediterranean and set up colonies throughout the Mediterranean and up the Spanish coast.

It's a pretty cut and dried history once you understand that we are dealing with remnant refugee populations moving from one area to another, and eventually as far West as they could go.

Hey, that's us! 90% of all identifiable Celtic people live in the Americas or Australia these days.

[LostTribe]

>why the different genetics per this article

If you have been following the "genetics studies" here on FR for the last year or two you know how unreliable they have proven to be. In fact, the only consistancy seems to be that the results of the genetics studies turn out to be whatever those doing the financing want them to be. It is truly scandalous, and while a great idea, is nothing we can hang our hat on at this time. Certainly nothing to use for rewriting history.

[keithtoo]

As a matter of historical fact, there were Rushin' Vikings. Here is a pict-ure of them.

[muawiyah]

The Volga Vikings ARE the Russians. Gorbachev, for example, was prototypically Scandinavian! Yeltsin was a "Great Russian", and they are a mixed people of Viking, Greek, Slav and Mongol origins. Life in Russia is usually better when the Scandinavians are on top.

They used everybody they could as slaves, particularly their women, and their fellow Vikings. The most common man's name among the Vikings was "Carl", which means "servant" or "slave".

You read enough about Viking culture and you get the idea that those old boys thought women were a different species useful only for incubating humanculae provided soley by the males!

[Torie]

So we can find Celt genes in Wallonia too?

[Torie]

Well maybe then the Scots Irish and the Irish should be told that they are of the same tribe. Just a thought.

[blam]

"What an interesting thread this is!!!"

Thanks. I have some Hibiscus too. (blue/pink)

[dr_who]

provided soley by the males!

Hopefully. But the Rus weren't originally vikings, were they?

[LostTribe]

>The Angles and Saxons were not Celts. They were Germans.

Actually, they were all CELTS. The Germani were merely another Celtic tribe, from which the name "Germany" is derived. They, among other Celtic Tribes gave the Roman Empire fits.  However, todays Germans are more Slavic then Celtic.

>Hey, that's us! 90% of all identifiable Celtic people live in the Americas or Australia these days.

Well that's close!  Make that ...live in Europe or North America and you've got it. The other 10% are in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc..............

[Torie]

Blue Hibuscus? Maybe you mean Hydranga.

[keithtoo]

They know it, they are just too proud to admit it. Plus there is the whole Scotch vs Whiskey thing.

[Torie]

Is there anyone of European ancestry that was not impregnated by a Viking or Celt?

[dr_who]

I think Scotland was settled by Irish at some point. Scotch-Irish refers to the breed that resulted when they intermingled in the U.S. and developed things like clogging and country muzack.

[LostTribe]

>Well maybe then the Scots Irish and the Irish should be told that they are of the same tribe. Just a thought.

Sure, it's a funny thought, in terms of todays historical context. But has nothing to do with their very common Celtic heritage. Please click on my Profile and take 3 minutes to read the 3-MINUTE HISTORY to see how this all fits together.

[Lessismore]

No doubt the Anglo-Saxon heathens put as many Britons to the sword and spit as they could. We should all be happy William put a stop to that nonsense.

William abolished the death penalty in England in 1088.

[dr_who]

And probably moonshine, come to think of it.