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Same Old Gore
CNSNews.com ^ | 7/4/02 | Robert D. Novak

Posted on 07/04/2002 10:17:48 AM PDT by Jean S

James Carville, ferociously partisan, seldom fires on a fellow Democrat. Nevertheless, he was not pleased by Al Gore's performance in Memphis last weekend. "I've heard of political consultants (who) advise a candidate to go negative on another candidate," Carville said on CNN's "Crossfire." "This is the first time I've seen a candidate go negative on a political consultant."

At a three-day "retreat" with carefully selected donors and fund-raisers, Gore delivered an extraordinary explanation for why he is not president of the United States. He would "shed the constraint" on him imposed by consultants if he runs in 2004.

In other words, bad advice-not the candidate himself-lost the election. While that triggered a standing ovation from diehard supporters in Memphis, it has not played well across the country as Democratic activists chewed over comments by their once and possibly future leader.

Their conclusion: It was the same old Gore, re-inventing himself. He had trumped his ace, obscuring his frontal attack on George W. Bush's presidency with meditations on an old campaign.

Democratic despair is that Gore, relying mainly on name identification, may sweep through a foreshortened primary election schedule as a second-chance nominee who may repeat the failures of William Jennings Bryan and Adlai E. Stevenson.

The gathering in Memphis was an indication of how far Gore has traveled down the road toward another candidacy. Some 60 men and women there were not invited for political sagacity but for their bank accounts and their loyalty to the former vice president.

It is remarkable that in facing so docile an audience, he felt compelled to put the blame for the 2000 outcome on somebody else.

Gore named no names, but the consensus is that he was pointing at Bob Shrum and Tad Devine, partners in a Washington-based consulting firm with a consistent record of success.

Shrum and Devine have had little contact with Gore since working for him in 2000, but they have refused to utter a word critical of their former client. When I asked Devine whether he was Gore's target, Devine replied: "I just don't want to get into that.
You're going to have to ask him (Gore) about that. I don't know who he was talking about."

Donna Brazile, the former vice president's 2000 campaign manager, backed Gore by suggesting he "received some bad advice from some of the consultants." "What bad advice?" I asked. "The advice not to campaign hard in Tennessee."

The accusation that Gore lost his home state-and therefore the election-because of consultants, ignores the fact Tennessee was delegated to the care of local Democrats. Expenditure of $1 million and a late campaign stop could not endear Gore to his fellow Tennesseeans.

In fact, the consultants revived a moribund Gore campaign, with Bush far ahead in the polls when Devine went to Nashville to perform political surgery. Gore's own polls showed he had moved ahead by 5 percentage points just before his feckless performance in the first debate. The fault was not the campaign's but the candidate's.

The most influential adviser for 2000 figures to exert the same influence for 2004: Karenna Gore Schiff. She is blamed for Gore's mid-campaign decision to dress in shades of brown. Mrs. Schiff is behind the current push to propel her father into another campaign and was the apparent architect of the Memphis festivities.

I asked several prominent Democrats their opinion of what Gore said last weekend, and found all highly critical and none willing to go on record. One senior member of the House, respected in Democratic circles, said: "The wrong thing for Al Gore to do is to try to re-invent himself. I cannot think of a worse idea for him." Yet, he added, if he must predict the 2004 nominee this early, it would be Gore.

The one element Gore has right is that the Democratic faithful are more than ready to end bipartisan support for President Bush's conduct of the war on terrorism.

But they would like Gore to lower his voice, stop complaining about his advisers and maybe shed a few pounds. Perhaps he needs help from political consultants.


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1 posted on 07/04/2002 10:17:48 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
There's nothing like a little harmless in-fighting in the dumbmocrat corner. is there?
2 posted on 07/04/2002 10:25:50 AM PDT by AlGone2001
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To: JeanS
I think the global warming has dried out his sap....as one who knows....spokeshave
3 posted on 07/04/2002 10:27:17 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: JeanS; All
THE GORON PLANS HIS 2004 ATTACK ON AMERICA WHILE POSING AS A GREEN CANDIDATE!


4 posted on 07/04/2002 10:31:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AlGone2001
algore has just admitted that he is not his own man. He's a front for various advisors. Now, if I want a front for a President, I'll certainly vote for one, who's not just so grating, fingernails on the chalkboard grating.
5 posted on 07/04/2002 10:32:47 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: JeanS
And yet there are some "real conservatives" around here who believe it would have been better for America had this walking, talking, grunt-shouting mass of dysfunction been elected POTUS. Then, you see, people would have been really sick of the Democrats (eight years of Clinton alone couldn't turn them off, I guess) and we could have gotten a real conservative in the White House, instead of President Bush.

Sometimes I read this board and just shake my head...

6 posted on 07/04/2002 10:35:07 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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And yet there are some "real conservatives" around here who believe it would have been better for America had this walking, talking, grunt-shouting mass of dysfunction been elected POTUS.

Uh, care to elaborate on that?

I know of no one on this forum that has ever made that opinion known to anyone else.

To do so would invite all sorts of flames.

Nobody and I do mean NOBODY that has the least shred of conservative values in their body would put that belief forward.

Gore is now and has always been, a flaming liberal with green tendencies that just happened to have found a niche in the Demoncrapie party into which, to his delight, he fit well.

Shake your head all you want as you read this board, but please be sure you really understand the feelings of some of the participants on it.

I have a faint memory of a couple of misguided demoncrapies-in-disguise that wandered over here from Terry Coppage's crap site (Barflop, uh, Fartflop, no, uh, Barfbop, oh whatever the hell he calls his piss-poor site) or from Demoncrapies Underground, that attempted to put such thoughts forward, especially during the heart felt dissatisfaction quite a few conservatives felt with Bush over the CFR debacle.

They left quickly, once the "true conservatives" told them how stupid their opinion was.

7 posted on 07/04/2002 11:00:22 AM PDT by OldSmaj
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To: JeanS
Expenditure of $1 million and a late campaign stop could not endear Gore to his fellow Tennesseeans.

I don't admire Gore because I read his book and concluded it was written by an idiot.

Meanwhile, those in Tennessee know him better; so I guess Gore has more strikes than being a simple idiot.

8 posted on 07/04/2002 11:16:45 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: JeanS
...the same old Gore, re-inventing himself.


9 posted on 07/04/2002 11:22:21 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: JeanS
Interesting article. Thanks for posting. Here is the worst advisor Gore had, by far, and I notice he has no plans to fire her:

The most influential adviser for 2000 figures to exert the same influence for 2004: Karenna Gore Schiff.

She is a young mother and a lawyer. She needs to spend time with her kids, and if she wants, to work as a lawyer. When she tries to "connect" with voters for Gore, she comes off so poorly all she does is ensure MORE voters won't vote for him. If she is again in charge, have no fear, Gore is a goner.
10 posted on 07/04/2002 11:22:24 AM PDT by summer
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To: JeanS
The "Tennesee Two by Four" can't be a Green candidate, as he is severely threatened by forest fires.
11 posted on 07/04/2002 11:23:01 AM PDT by spald
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To: OldSmaj
Uh, care to elaborate on that?

I know of no one on this forum that has ever made that opinion known to anyone else.

Oh, really? Try this on for size.

I had just read this post, and that's why it was on my mind when I was checking out this thread. I guess you must have missed that one.

12 posted on 07/04/2002 11:23:03 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: AlGone2001
Gore delivered an extraordinary explanation for why he is not president of the United States. He would "shed the constraint" on him imposed by consultants if he runs in 2004.

This really strains credibility, especially when one recalls Gore boasting it was he who personally designed his GORE campaign logo (no consultant did that), and it was Gore himself who reportedly micro-managed the FL recount mess (again, no consultant). Yet, today, 20 months later, we are told Gore was like a dog on a leash with these consultants. I don't buy it.

Plus, I realize why he is saying this. For if he now said "OK, I made some bad decisions in 2000 -- but, now, I am ready to make good decisions as your president if you elect me in 2004," well, no one would vote for him.
13 posted on 07/04/2002 11:37:29 AM PDT by summer
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To: AlGone2001
If you enjoy watching in-fighting on the Left, then you'll love this recent thread:

RAT ATTACK
[Or: The Left is self-destructing as we speak...]

14 posted on 07/04/2002 11:39:07 AM PDT by summer
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To: JeanS; AlGone2001; spokeshave; Kermit; OldSmaj; thinktwice; Slyfox; spald; ...
I asked several prominent Democrats their opinion of what Gore said last weekend, and found all highly critical and none willing to go on record. One senior member of the House, respected in Democratic circles, said: "The wrong thing for Al Gore to do is to try to re-invent himself. I cannot think of a worse idea for him." Yet, he added, if he must predict the 2004 nominee this early, it would be Gore.

If you're ready to see the three newest versions of Al Gore, check out post #1 on this thread:

Weather tis Nobler in The Mind
[BIG NEWS says WA Monthly: Jeb Bush did NOT steal Election 2000]

15 posted on 07/04/2002 11:46:51 AM PDT by summer
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
"..this walking, talking, grunt-shouting mass of dysfunction ..."

Couldn't have said it better! And I agree- anyone who would rather see the GoreBot in the White House is brain-dead.

16 posted on 07/04/2002 11:52:11 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Slyfox
OMG, now THAT'S funny!! Gore, living in A white house, president of the Shady Oaks Trailer Park Association. Thanks for the laugh!!
17 posted on 07/04/2002 11:55:08 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: JeanS
As a poet, I love the name "Gore"
It rhymes well with "bore" and with "snore"
There are more words I'm sure
Including one not so pure
But I'm nice and won't list any more!

Leni

18 posted on 07/04/2002 11:55:20 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: JeanS
I just can't help but wonder about people that would aline themselves with Gore, except those in his immediate family. I wonder what type of Government they really want running the US and heavily influencing the world. Gore is a loser! He has been for years. Besides, after all the "Alfa" stuff, the additonal question is, does he have all his bingo card numbers. Surely, his support comes from some "grass root type of "way out" beliefs, but I can't help but question how many really believe such to the tune of voting for the turkey?
19 posted on 07/04/2002 11:56:04 AM PDT by Joee
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To: JeanS
Reminds me of Bob Dole. Had Bob Dole ran as Bob Dole in '96, the election may have been different. But Dole listened to one too many advisors, and never showed personality to the camera. Apparently Gore suffered from the same problem.

I'm not wishing Gore more success in '04, but he is right -- listening to too many advisors kills your campaign.
20 posted on 07/04/2002 11:56:59 AM PDT by jae471
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