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San Antonio TX area flood thread

Posted on 07/02/2002 7:40:34 AM PDT by newsperson999

Record rainfall in SAN ANTONIO TX with over 10 inches at the airport breaking the all time month record for July in ONE DAY! doppler says 15-20 inches have fallen just north of SAN ANTONIO..roads closed, water rescues in progress. Rainfall rates of 3-5 inches per hour have been fallening in the area just north SAN ANTONIO. New radar shots the last few minutes show Moderate-Heavy rain moving/developing back towards SAN ANTONIO from the northwest.

Folks the system has stalled and I believe may be forming a tropical depression over land...How can this be? Well so much rain has fallen in the area and there is so much standing 78-80 degree water around its almost like being over an ocean. This has happened before with hurricane Danny which moved inland for days, weakened to nothing, dumped 14 inches of rain ahead of its path over NC..and was a strong tropical storm with 65 MPH winds as it moved off the coast!

In fact new radar shots showing almost "feeder" bands forming near the gulf.. Looks like the circulation is just NE SAN ANTONIO by 20 miles or so...Both visible and infared Satellite also very impressive


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To: newsperson999
We're real wet up here north of San Marcos. Luckily we're in the hills and perhaps won't see flooding but I do worry about lower lying areas. We've been getting drenched since Friday. It's pouring right now!
81 posted on 07/02/2002 11:41:04 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: newsperson999
Good grief, check out the San Marcos area road closures, and just think it's worse towards Bandera! -

16000 BLOCK FM 150
19000 BLOCK FM 150
24000 BLOCK RR 12
5 MILE DAM
BELL SPRINGS @ LOW WATER CROSSING
BUNTON LANE
BUNTON LANE @ EAST ACCESS
BURLESON ST @ WEST ACCESS
CAMP BEN MCCULOUGH @ ONION CREEK
CARPENTERS LANE @ BLISS SPILLAR
COLE SPRINGS RD
CR 1492 @ LOW WATER CROSSING
CR 105 (TURNERSVILLE ROAD)
CR 107 SATTERWHITE ROAD
CR 157 TO COTTON GIN RD
CR 157 NORTH OF RHODE ROAD
CR 158 @ LOW WATER CROSSING
CR 165 @ LOOP 165
CR 212 (BRUSHY CREEK ROAD)
CR 213 @ FREEMAN RANCH UNIVERSITY
CR 218 PUMP STATION ROAD
CR 266 @ HWY 80
CR 266 @ MCCARTY LANE
CR 266 @ REDWOOD RD/HWY 123
CR 295 @ CR 266 @ CALDWELL 101
CRUMLEY RANCH ROAD
CREEK RD @ MOUNT GAINOR
DACY LANE FROM HILLSIDE TERRACE TO KELLY SMITH LANE
DACY LANE SOUTH OF CR 131 TO CR 122
DARDEN HILL RD
DARDEN HILL RD @ LOW WATER CROSSING
ELDER HILL RD
FITZHUGH RANCH ROAD 1 MILE EAST OF LOW WATER CROSSING
FLITE ACRES RD @ LITTLE ARKANSAS
FM 150 WEST FROM FM 1826 TO HAYS CITY STORE
FM 150 WEST FROM FM 1826 TO DARDEN HILL ROAD
FM 150 @ SIERRA WEST
FM 150 @ TWIN CROSSINGS
FM 150 FROM GRISTMILL TO HEIDENRICH
FM 150 WEST TO MICHAELIS RANCH
FM 165 @ ONION CREEK (HENLEY)
FM 1826 @ CRYSTAL CREEK
FM 1826 @ GOLDENWOOD DR
FM 1826 @ SALTLICK
FM 2770 @ BUDA FIRE STATION (WATER OVER ROAD)
FM 2325 @ JP'S OFFICE (WATER OVER ROAD)
FM 621 @ RIVER HILLS
FM 967 WEST OF ONION CREEK BRIDGE
FM 3237 @ RANCHO GRANDE
FM 3237 @ DEERLAKE ESTATES
FM 3237 @ ST. STEPHENS
FM 3237 @ ARROW HEAD
FRANCIS HARRIS @ SOUTH END
FULTON RR @ FREEMAN RANCH
GREEN ACRES ROAD
HEIDENRICH RD @ BUNTON LANE
HEIDENRICH RD @ FM 150
HIDDEN VALLEY @ LOW WATER CROSSING
HIGHWAY 290 @ SUNSET CANYON WEST
HUGO RD @ PURGATORY
HWY 123 @ FM 621
JACOBS WELL RD @ LOW WATER CROSSING
LAKEWOOD DR @ FM 1626
LAS FLORES @ FM 2325
LEHMAN RD @ LOW WATER CROSSING
LEVERETTES LOOP (CR 284)
LIME KILN @ HILLIARD RD (WATER OVER ROAD)
LITTLE ARKANSAS
LONE MAN MOUNTAIN
MCCARTY LN @ CR 266
MCCARTY LN EAST OF IH 35 @ RR TRACKS
NUTTY BROWN RD
NUTTY BROWN RD @ WILDWOOD HILLS
OLD MARTINDALE RD @ LOW WATER CROSSING
PARADISE VALLEY @ LOW WATER CROSSING
PEACEFUL VALLEY
PLEASANT VALLEY @ CYPRESS CREEK
PLUM CREEK @ COTTON GIN RD
POSEY RD @ RR TRACKS (WATER OVER ROAD)
POSEY RD WEST OF IH35 (WATER OVER ROAD)
POST RD @ CHAMPIONS
POST RD @ LOW WATER CROSSING
RIVER RD IN WIMBERLEY
RR 12 @ BUTLER RANCH ROAD
RR 12 @ OLD OAKS RANCH ROAD
RR 12 (24000 BLOCK IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, WATER OVER ROAD)
RR 12 @ ROGERS DR, CITY OF SM
RR 12 @ WIMBERLEY HILLS
SAWYER RANCH ROAD @ DARDEN HILL ROAD
TRAUTWEIN ROAD (CR 185)
UHLAND RD @ RIVER RD
UHLAND ROAD @ BLANCO RIVER
VALLEY VIEW @ BURNETT RANCHES
WAYSIDE DR
WILLIAMSON ROAD @ PETRAS WAY TO TRAVIS COUNTY LINE
WOODCREEK @ DRY CYPRESS CREEK
WOODCREEK DR @ LOW WATER CROSSING
YORK CREEK ROAD @ FM 1101 (IH 35)

82 posted on 07/02/2002 11:41:31 AM PDT by Ted
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To: TADSLOS
Waco's Fourth celebration is on the banks of the Brazos so we'll have to wait and see if we get more heavy rain and how high the river goes. Should be okay since most of our runoff comes from the north. Looks like your area is being hammered now. So far just never ending light rain here. I pray this thing quits sitting over our neighbors to the south. They can't take much more.
83 posted on 07/02/2002 11:46:28 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: newsperson999
Down here in Miami, floods are a daily occurance from late May-August.
84 posted on 07/02/2002 11:47:58 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: newsperson999
We do re-enactments of biblical floods occasionally here in the San Antonio area just to break the monotony of hot and dry - last time was Oct 98 - time before that was May 93 (as I recall). Anyway, this is for excitement, not because we're looking for sympathy - LOL!

the upside of all this rain is that "they" just lifted the county-wide ban on aerial fireworks for the 4th of July! ANY fireowrks are still illegal within the San Antonio city limits (had a 12 y-o girl killed by a bottle-rocket to the temple a few years back), but out in the county, watch out, America!!

85 posted on 07/02/2002 11:49:40 AM PDT by mil-vet
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To: mil-vet
It's getting better in the city..I-10 reopened..but this morning a 12 foot wall of water hit the highway...semi's were floating down it...blackhawk helicopters from the local army base helped with the rescues..
looks like the low is still parked just north of san antinio...these lows have a pattern of stroms firing near the center at night. these then weaken during the day but storm form in feeder bands on the east side of it..which is happening now
86 posted on 07/02/2002 12:12:11 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: newsperson999
LIVE NEWS HERE
87 posted on 07/02/2002 12:13:15 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: laotzu
yea I laughed when this downpour started the day after the water restrictions started. It happens all the time. hehehe
88 posted on 07/02/2002 12:24:23 PM PDT by GUIDO
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To: newsperson999
yeah, north and west of austin, we're getting a ton of rain here. lots of flooding, our county (williamson) under a flood watch. even with all our rain, we've gotten about half of what people 50 miles down the road have. this thing is stalled.
89 posted on 07/02/2002 12:32:29 PM PDT by paulsy
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To: TexasRepublic
I remember that one. Use to travel the road to Hondo fm Bandera and that rain washed out a bridge over one of those "dry" creek beds.
90 posted on 07/02/2002 12:58:31 PM PDT by Augustus McCrae
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
It isn't raining on the inside!
91 posted on 07/02/2002 1:04:04 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: newsperson999
Looks like they are beginning to evacuate parts of downtown Austin along Lamar Blvd and Shoal Creek.
Dripping Springs west of Austin is now completely shut off, nobody can get in or out.
Walnut Creek in east Austin is on the rampage as well and firefighters are evacuating houses and mobile homes.
It aint over yet folks! Here in Elgin we have had a total of 9.23 inches since this began a few days ago. Thank god for the rain!
92 posted on 07/02/2002 1:37:31 PM PDT by asneditor
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
It has rained somewhat in Houston but nothing like what San Antonio has gotten. We had our flood a year or so back. Hopefully will not have another one like that
Brad in Houston
93 posted on 07/02/2002 1:48:42 PM PDT by bradactor
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To: asneditor
ONE CONFIRMED DEATH IN SAN ANTONIO..it's not anywhere close ot being over....
94 posted on 07/02/2002 1:49:44 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: dittomom
I'm so happy to hear that you are okay. I have been wondering about you as I have heard some reports from Bandera, and they haven't sounded too good. It's a pity that your Texas vacation has been a wash (pun intended). This is certainly not normal weather for us in July, but then, we didn't have our usual rains in Feb. Mar. April and May, so we are far behind in rainfall. At this point, though, enough is enough!!

Have a safe trip back home when you can get out. It was a pleasure to have you join us last Saturday.

95 posted on 07/02/2002 1:59:51 PM PDT by basil
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To: newsperson999
#:55pm
The national weather service in austin san antonio has issued a * Flash flood warning for the following counties. Williamson travis gillespie hays kerr kendall real caldwell comal bandera guadalupe gonzales bexar medina uvalde wilson dewitt karnes * Until 800 pm cdt

* At 348 pm. Weather service doppler radar patches of light rain with isolated thunderstorms. Rainfall rates were generally less than one-tenth inch or less with isolated rates of near 1 inch in thunderstorms.

Additional thunderstorms developing over far southern texas will move into south central texas later this afternoon causing flood problems to become worse.

96 posted on 07/02/2002 2:02:33 PM PDT by newsperson999
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I'm sitting here on the banks of the Pedernales just E of Johnson City. The water WAS receding after coming halfway up my 8 ft game fence along the river, the base of which is 75 ft from the river and 12 ft above. It has to rise another twelve feet to make it into the house which has never happened before. We are certified OUT of the flood plain. BUT we are now in another cloudburst (about two to three inches per hour) and who knows what could happen. Luckilly the river and the land drops fast around here and drains quickly. Prayers appreciated.
97 posted on 07/02/2002 2:13:09 PM PDT by mercy
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To: newsperson999
I hate to disagree here about the "may be forming a tropical depression over land" comment (and haven't read the other posts yet to see if someone has pointed this out yet)....but that ain't gonna happen (my best Texan speak). Danny was a tropical system when it moved inland...and then moved out over the gulf stream. This system:

1) Is Not a tropical system...but an upper level feature.

2) Has no surface low

3) The rotation you see on radar is a reflection of the mid-level system

4) It is over land. It doesn't matter if the temps are 100 degrees...and the whole area is flooded...it will not convert into a tropical depression while over land. If it were over an island...maybe....but not while sitting in south-central Texas.

5) This system is baroclinic...tropical systems are baro-tropic. The system had a chance to convert when it was over the NW gulf last week...and it didn't do it. It will not do it when it is over land. Will bet my house against anyone elses...and give you 10 to 1 odds:-)

Just a 15 year meteorologist's opinion...and a tropical NUTCASE.

98 posted on 07/02/2002 2:17:25 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: mercy
Yes mercy..radar is showing 2-3 inches per hour hust SE of johnson city and its not moving ... stay safe
99 posted on 07/02/2002 2:17:32 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: dittomom
It's not tropical...the rain bands are swirling around the mid-level low. There is no low pressure at the surface.
100 posted on 07/02/2002 2:19:28 PM PDT by NELSON111
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