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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 25
06/30/02 - Sunday | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 25

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:31:42 PM PDT by stlnative

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To: TheDon
TheDon, I like your point that Ricci's
mechanic could've ASSUMED that the ex-
con took the Jeep, because of the call
from the "wife" that he needed it, and
because the mechanic was present when
Ricci returned the Jeep. Apparently,
some interpret discrepancies in how a
thing is twice or thrice told, when it
could be a mere misunderstanding, as a
MAJOR CONFLICT. I don't see that FNC
ever said Ricci is ruled out, either.
Not a suspect is what cops always said
anyway. His "alibi holds up"? What on
earth does that literally mean? Wifey
sticks to her story? My guess is that
FNC was misunderstood, like you said
the mechanic was. But time will tell!
121 posted on 06/30/2002 2:18:27 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: submarine
Sounds like Ricci knows he'd better distance himself from that Jeep.

The father-in-law and the wife both claim the Jeep never had seat covers in the first place. They could be lying ...

The fact that wifey is now remembering that Ricci lost his keys in April, and suggesting that someone found them and used them to pick up the van and subsequently return it, is a clear sign she's getting desperate
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Yes that is what it sounds like to me.

I think he is trying to keep himself from being tied to the Jeep (despite an eyewitness mechanic and records) because he is either afraid of what they might find or he is afraid someone will come forward who spotted his Jeep out on the night of kidnapping (or videotape?) catching him lying big time about his alibi.

The cops are probably asking him for the bag of items and he can't produce the items so he is just denying he was ever there and ever did such a thing.

Why would Ricci and his wife and her parents say there is no way Ricci took the Jeep? Also Angela claims to had no idea the Jeep was even taken out because it must not have been parked at the trailor that whole time. That's too weird because why would you not mention taking out the Jeep to your wife and keep it away from his trailor home unless you have something to hide with regards to the Jeep.

The only possible explanation is the mechanic is lying for some reason but I don't really believe that.

Also the cops will find out if Angela is lying about when she went to bed (she said 1 or 2 oclock after watching tv). The cops probably asked her what tv shows she was watching that night to see if they match up. My personal feeling is that she zonked out after taking medication much earlier than that. She woke up at 6 so that was only like 4-5 hours sleep that night and she had to go to something important that day didn't she? Oh well just a thought.


122 posted on 06/30/2002 2:20:00 PM PDT by MadisonA
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To: lsee
No doubt that is causing the investigators some problems.
123 posted on 06/30/2002 2:20:22 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon
"I'm glad you appreciated my sense of humor, it seemed lost on others."

While I did appreciate your humor on the "flames" you posted directly to me last night, I was not amused by your "Tinfoil thread." I think all of us here can take a little "heat" now and then, but your thread went over the line. I'm glad to see that the moderator has chosen to deal with you in the appropriate way, and that you have been prompted to "be nice." That's what the rest of us have been trying to be all along.

124 posted on 06/30/2002 2:24:37 PM PDT by freedox
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To: 4ourprogeny
4ourprogeny wrote:

"I sure don't know...

Read the story at the link on post #19. Maybe you will then know."

Are you attempting humor or disdain? Neither one is appreciated on this important thread.

The "I sure don't know.." comment was made to state the obvious....none of us knows the truth at this point, that includes you and everyone on this thread that is not LE in SLC.

125 posted on 06/30/2002 2:26:17 PM PDT by hergus
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To: brigette
Yes I noticed MSNBC has a lot more coverage plus they seem to have all the interviews of a lot of people and witnesses involved.
126 posted on 06/30/2002 2:26:54 PM PDT by MadisonA
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To: MadisonA
FOX news reporting interview w/ neighbors...saying they heard noises, heard a LOUD car go screeching down the road from the hill..also heard a scream..Neighbor doesn't think it's adults. Also, SEVERAL neighbors have reported this to the police, and ALL say that NONE of them have been contacted by the police to discuss this...Hmmmm..
127 posted on 06/30/2002 2:38:13 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Bella
OOpppsss...Neighbor doesn't think it's kids..
128 posted on 06/30/2002 2:39:53 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Bella
Bella, would this be the trailer park mutants or neighbors of the Smarts?
129 posted on 06/30/2002 2:46:24 PM PDT by Lorraine
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To: Bella
0:^)
130 posted on 06/30/2002 2:47:07 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Lorraine
Neighbors of the Smarts'..
131 posted on 06/30/2002 2:51:03 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: luvbach1
An amoral (and immoral) character like Ricci could well have felt admiration for the Smart family even as he burglarized them. I believe this would cause such a person little conflict.

Yes, your right, it's just hard to imagine a person with that type of personality.

132 posted on 06/30/2002 2:54:15 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: Lorraine
The Smart neighbors..
133 posted on 06/30/2002 2:55:30 PM PDT by Bella
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To: IamHD
one neighbor said that it happened around 2:15 a.m...a scream and screeching tires driving away from the house, but the police did not follow-up on it.
134 posted on 06/30/2002 2:56:29 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Types_with_Fist
The mechanic could be lying. This should be easy to prove one way or the other, since the mechanic said the guy waiting for Ricci was using the pay phone across the street and the police are solicitng the phone records for the phone.
135 posted on 06/30/2002 3:08:09 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Jolly Green
I'm sure the mechanic laid awake nights trying to figure out a way to frame Ricci.

How 'bout this: the mechanic's buddy had to build a shed and needed a vehicle to carry tools and lumber. The mechanic knows Ricci won't be getting his Jeep for a few weeks yet, loans it to his buddy.

Now, out of the blue, the FBI wants to know about the jeep. The mechanic is looking for a way to admit that the jeep wasn't on the lot for a few days, without admitting to any criminal wrongdoing.

Uh, it disappeared, then reappeared. Huh? It's OK, Ricci had it. How do I know? Because he brought it back. It disappeared and Ricci brought it back. Why didn't I report it stolen when I noticed it missing? Uh, uh... Well um... Mrs. Ricci called and said he would come get it. That's right. She called. I didn't do anything wrong.

136 posted on 06/30/2002 3:11:06 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Bella
LOLOL

"The Smart neighbors."

witty, very witty....
137 posted on 06/30/2002 3:11:54 PM PDT by hergus
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To: freedox
I was not amused by your "Tinfoil thread."

As for being nice, i wonder if some of the more assertive posters would speak in person the way they do online??
BTW, i like TheDon's and your posts, and his thread to move some of the more off-the-wall, though not necessarily incorrect, discussion seemed like a good idea. The moderator deep-sixed it after everyone had their say, and on we go. Some deal with stress such as this in different ways, but posters and lurkers are here because they care (i hope).

138 posted on 06/30/2002 3:12:39 PM PDT by philomath
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To: FR_addict
The mechanic could be lying. This should be easy to prove one way or the other, since the mechanic said the guy waiting for Ricci was using the pay phone across the street and the police are solicitng the phone records for the phone.

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Yes good point. The cops will find out who's lying soon enough.
139 posted on 06/30/2002 3:15:01 PM PDT by MadisonA
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To: Yeti
Good points. I'm sure the mechanic is getting an unexpected, and thorough, anal exam.
140 posted on 06/30/2002 3:21:13 PM PDT by TheDon
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