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Legislation would force voters to show ID at polling places (Pennsylvania)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^
| June 28, 2002
| Amy Worden
Posted on 06/28/2002 6:07:02 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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"We have many senior citizens in our state who have voted without incident in most, if not every, election since turning 18," [Said Rep. Babette Babs Josephs] Often times, voting repeatedly in the same election
The way to prevent it is to have inspectors and an informed citizenship."[Said Pedro Rodriguez]
So, exactly what would the inspectors inspect if no I.D. is required? Is Mr. Rodriguez naive enough to think that the reason citizens vote more than once is because they dont know it is wrong? Or maybe he just thinks were dumb enough to believe that is the case.
Republicans said the bill represented a non-partisan effort to wipe out fraud.[ said Steve Miskin]
Come on Miskin, youre sounding as bad as Rodriguez. If the vote was split down party lines, then quite obviously it isnt non-partisan. The Democrats have long come to rely on bolstering their power by vote fraud, changing
well, enforcing the rules late in the game will seem like a blow below the belt to those who cant think rationally.
This shows Mike Fisher can't win on a fair vote. said Rep. Mark Cohen
Actually, what it shows is that Republicans believe that Mike Fisher CAN win on a fair vote.
Its simply laughable that the dems believe that the electorate of PA would think that this measure is some type of ploy to keep loveable old minorities struggling to reach the polling stations in their walkers from casting a ballot. Well, actually, almost no one challenged the fact that we had a 98.6 turn out in the 2000 election in Philadelphia. Maybe theyre not that stupid after all
Owl_Eagle
Guns Before Butter.
To: Owl_Eagle
Legislation would force voters to show ID at polling places![](http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/archives/phillips/cemetery/hillsdale/hillsdale6.jpg)
Most common form of identification for the run-of-the-mill democrat.
To: Owl_Eagle
Geez Louise, in DC and Maryland, I have had to show some ID every time I came to the polls. They didn't insist on a drivers license, nor necessarily the sort of photo ID that you would need to cash a check, but something - like a library card or even a recent voting announcement mailed to my home - to show that I'm me.
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posted on
06/28/2002 6:28:16 AM PDT
by
DonQ
To: Owl_Eagle; gwmoore; buckeye63
Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID.
The measure, which requires voters to present a voter-registration card or photo identification at the polls, ...
Metcalfe said most counties have agreed to issue new voter-registration cards at no cost to individuals who have lost them. Democrats are LIEberals.
I got a voter registration card when I registered, showing my state and federal district numbers. Everyone gets one, so it is not a burden to present it at the polls. However, since it is nothing more than a cardboard printout, it is easy to forge, so those good dead Demoncrats can continue to vote. They need a better way to purge the rolls of ineligible voters across the state.
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posted on
06/28/2002 6:28:33 AM PDT
by
brityank
To: TightSqueeze
The Senate Dummycrats in MadsTown, WI won't allow this legislation to come to the floor citing the same arguments. Funny thing, I have to show a picture ID to shop at Sam's Club and a picture ID to work out at the YMCA. This requirement certainly does not prevent minorities from doing either thing, and nobody objects. I also have to have a picture ID to cash a check, drive a car, and many other daily tasks.
Methinks that the whole anti-ID/ anti-picture ID mantra from the Dummycrats is because they are afraid that their historical method of stealing elections will be undermined.
To: Owl_Eagle
"At a time when states and the federal government are looking at making it easier to vote and establishing more reliable voting procedures, this can only be seen as an attempt to disenfranchise people," said Larry Frankel, legislative director for the American Civil Liberties Union in Pennsylvania.This outcry is absurd. We have an ID requirement in Kentucky and the most commonly used - asked for by polling officials - is our photo ID drivers licenses.
The Penna. Dems just don't want anything to get in the way of their voter fraud system IMHO.
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posted on
06/28/2002 6:34:27 AM PDT
by
toddst
To: DonQ
In order to vote in Mexico a picture ID is required. Your signature must match the one on record and a thumb print is required. Since illegal Mexicans vote like crazy in our elections you would think we would take similiar measures. This country is pathetic with our lack of self respect.
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posted on
06/28/2002 6:46:08 AM PDT
by
willyone
To: toddst
State drivers license. Now we know why the Dems. and others are pushing to let illegals have licenses.
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posted on
06/28/2002 6:47:56 AM PDT
by
willyone
To: Owl_Eagle
It is about time. You gotta shake you head at people who claim that showing an ID is a form of racism, or a huge burden.
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posted on
06/28/2002 7:16:13 AM PDT
by
Hacksaw
To: brityank
My thoughts exactly. Since basically anyone in PA who either drives (photo drivers licence), or has a photo id (yup, you bet welfare recipients gotta have these, sorry dumbs, you lose here),or has a concealed carry licence (has photo id looks roughly the same as a drivers license), there is plenty of id there to produce at the polls.
Please also note, that at least in Delaware county, there is the "voter's affidavit" to sign, after the registrar has checked your name off the voting rolls, indicated that you showed up to vote on the master card book, then you sign the affidavit, which, then proves you have, indeed, voted in the election. There is already plenty (at least here, in my precinct, (Upper Darby) where basically everyone knows everyone else, most all have been here for years, and are known to all the poll workers anyway.
This is more Dumoflop lieberals trying to vote the dead, as usual (gee, how else do you have 165% of voters voting, as reported (with perfectly straight faces), in certain Philly precincts, by the big 3 agitprop outlets here.
I'm all for showing the darn license, you have to do it a lot when using a credit card (fraud protection there) so why not voting? Won't bother me a bit!
Thanks, brityank for passing the info along.
Greg
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posted on
06/28/2002 12:36:37 PM PDT
by
gwmoore
To: Owl_Eagle
A great idea and about time.
"This is a violation of the equal-protection clause of the Constitution," said Rep. Mark Cohen (D., Phila.).
Sure, sure.
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posted on
06/28/2002 1:21:56 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Temple Owl
ping
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posted on
06/28/2002 1:22:20 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Owl_Eagle
Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID.And any voter who doesn't live within a short walking distance of the polling place would have to pay bus fare or would have to pay for gas in their car to get to the polling place, thus creating a "poll tax", right?
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posted on
06/28/2002 1:44:21 PM PDT
by
usadave
To: Tribune7
I am so disgusted with vote fraud, especially in Philadelphia, that I am willing have everyone show photo id along with fingerprints. Stealing votes is even more rotten than robbing widows and orphans.
To: Owl_Eagle
Good post Owl. We b eat 'em on school vouchers, now let's nail them on vote fraud.
To: Owl_Eagle
"Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID." OH PUHLLEZE!!!!! Chances are, at some point in your day, you'll need ID to write a check. Are we supposed to believe these people never pay by check?
To: Owl_Eagle
All Pennsylvanians need to hold their reps' feet to the fire on this one. The alternative is living in a dictatorship.
To: Owl_Eagle
Let's say the legislation passes and gets signed into law. Who is checking your ID at the door?
I don't think that the State of Pennsylvania is hiring a bunch of bouncers for November.
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posted on
07/09/2002 6:31:13 AM PDT
by
jz638
To: Owl_Eagle
The measure's sponsor, Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R., Butler), said it was aimed at curbing voter fraud, not preventing legitimate citizens from voting. Exactly. 99% of legitimate citizens have some form of picture I.D. And if they do not, guess what? They have all the way until November to make sure they get one! And the DNC can start sending out notices to every registered Democrat right now making them aware. They could also set up a fund from their contributions to pay for an I.D. for anyone who can not afford one($20), you know, instead of spending the money on lavish hotels, limos and vacations.
To: Owl_Eagle
I'm having trouble with the math here. The voting age of 18 hasn't been around that long. It was 21. Would someone please 'splain to me how a person of 18, say, 25 years ago, could jump to senior citizenship so soon?
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posted on
07/09/2002 6:44:38 AM PDT
by
Lois
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