Trial will weigh whether Muslim must remove veil for license photo

AZCentral.com/Orlando Sentinel ^ | 6.26.02

[mhking]

ORLANDO, Fla. - A Muslim woman from Winter Park, Fla., is being "hypersensitive" because she refuses to show her full face for a drivers license picture and should be required to remove her veil for the photograph, a state attorney said in a recent court brief.

[DoughtyOne]

the Case of the Freeper FRiva Feva is under scrutiny - super-sleuths are welcomed
come resolve the way to yesterday's Target Post, you're not out of the running yet
win your registration fees to the FRive Las Vegas Conference if you dare

[old school]

This is Bullsh*t! First of all, driving is not a privilege. Having a license to drive is a privilege! I have to ask, what is the purpose of having a driver license photo, if not to identify a licensed driver? The woman has no expectation of privacy in public. Neither her freedom of speech nor her practice of religion are impinged by the refusal of DMV officials to issue her a driver license. This ain't Saudi Arabia! If the culture here doesn't suit you, go somewhere it does! America-Love it or Leave it!

[Mamzelle]

Good Muslim women aren't supposed to drive, and it ought to be against the law to drive while wearing a blanket anyway. Think what that does to peripheral vision!

If she insists on driving while blindfolded, maybe the insurance companies should refuse to insure her.

[tsomer]

"In other words, it can be contended that while the state can refuse to issue someone a license, it cannot then forbid him or her to drive."

I'm not a lawyer, but the state can forbid minors, alchoholics, and the accident prone from driving by not issuing or revoking their license. I don't see how her rights to attend her mosque trump our rights to safety and equal treatment.

Her adoption of islamist stricture seems incomplete: she wears the burka but wants to drive. Saudi women wear the burka (or whatever they call that thing) and are forbidden to drive. Let her husband drive her around, or if she doesn't have one, let her father pick one out for her. She's like most western converts to exotic religions, picking some strictures to observe, while rejecting others. Religion a la carte.

[Criminal Number 18F]

borders not boarders

Maybe he's planning to "repel" same. You know, like a pirate movie...

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[PoisedWoman]

"Mind meld?"

LOL! Could be. Part of my mind and a little piece of my heart always lives in FL.

Someone else made the interesting point that auto insurance companies should be notified and will probably have hissy fits about veiled drivers. Let's hope they deny them coverage. The private sector always has more good sense than elected officials, but ins companies may have to wait until some statistics are available on accidents caused by women of cover. May they only plow into each other.

[quietolong]

I had A DL for 20 years without a photo on it.

The state must be able to identifydrivers, criminals

OK now this has what to do with driving. ?

What your next card will be.

FAA using biometrics to enhance travel safety; smart cards to be available later to public

[1rudeboy]

Well, why doesn't she go to the SecState's office, and have a family member take her photo (sans veil) with the SecState's equipment? Then hand it over . . . voila! Problem solved.

:)

[swarthyguy]

She should be the Onion's or the SatireWire Poster Girl of the Year.

This is stupid.

I'm sure muslim women from Saudi and Iran even have to get their picture put on a passport.

It's shameful that an American lawyer even consented to take her 'case'.

[Hacksaw]

Anyone want to question that the ACLU is anti American?

[swarthyguy]

Perhaps some enterprising freeper can find pictures of her before she converted and covered her face.

[itsahoot]

She doesn't have to have a license. And, there's always fingerprints!

If she is a devout Muslim, then she can't drive a car anyway.

[Hacksaw]

She could always buy a Trek. This is just another example of the ACLU trying to use the courts to undermine America.

[tractorman]

I wonder why the ACLU isn't defending the separation of church and state in this case???

[borntodiefree]

Traveling on public property is a right, not a priveledge. Whether it is via foot, bike, car, whatever...

Driving is transporting goods or people as a means of income such as Rig drivers, taxi cabs, etc...(don't believe me, see your state and federal definitions). The goon patrols have manipulated the system and they force people to get a "drivers license" by forcing the people when they buy a car to turn over the Title to the state. Yes, even if you "pay it off", the state still "owns" your car.

[Drew68]

I will support any law that makes life more miserable for mohammedans in America simply because I hate them.

Islam is the scourge of the earth and mohammedans are lower than vermin. They should be treated as such.

[Stone Mountain]

Marks, who is backed by the ACLU, also argues other states have accommodated devout Christians who did not want their pictures on licenses because of their interpretation of the Bible's second commandment against "graven" images.

If this is true, then she may have a point. Although I think they should all get photographed...

[DrDavid]

Anyone want to question that the ACLU is anti American?

That's what I always thought the A stood for:
Anti-American Civil Liberties Union

[borntodiefree]

Well then, it seems like you have a full grasp of our founding documents which state "liberty and justice for all...except Muslims"

[ppaul]

In other words, it can be contended that while the state can refuse to issue someone a license, it cannot then forbid him or her to drive.

If the "driving" takes place on a public road, it can.
The person's Freedom of Assembly is not threatened.
Public transportation and taxicabs are available, as well as the person's own two feet.