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White House Says Court Ruling On Pledge Is 'Wrong'(Graham: Constitutional Amendment If Necessary)
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/26/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 06/26/2002 3:17:41 PM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - The White House Wednesday called a California appeals court ruling on the Pledge of Allegiance "wrong," and announced that the Justice Department plans to take action.

The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the pledge is unconstitutional and should not be recited in schools, because the phrase "under God" violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution.

"The view of the White House is that this was a wrong decision and the Department of Justice is now evaluating how to seek redress," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

"The Declaration of Independence refers to God as the creator four different times. Congress begins each session of the Congress each day with a prayer and our currency says 'In God We Trust,'" he said.

Fleischer emphasized that the decision is one from a circuit court that only affects nine states and not a national court decision.

"I think that people are very naturally ... going to react strongly opposed to this," he said. "I think this decision will not sit well with the American people and it certainly does not sit well with the president of the United States.

"I think most Americans have faith in God, and they are going to express [their faith] and the pledge everyday that they can," he said.

Meanwhile, Rev. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition said the ruling should be a wake-up call for President Bush to appoint more conservative court judges -- even if it means bypassing the Senate.

"We can expect more anti-God decisions like the one just handed down by the judicial tyrants in San Francisco, if we don't get good conservative judges on the federal bench," Sheldon said. "Senators Daschle, Leahy, and McCain need to get out of the way and confirm Bush's nominees quickly.

"We're sick and tired of Tom Daschle blocking the confirmation of God-fearing judges like Charles Pickering," he continued. "Americans want men like Pickering on the bench who respect America's religious heritage and understand that we truly are a nation under God.

"If Senators Daschle, Leahy, and McCain don't get out of the way this week, I think it's time for President Bush to begin making recess appointments of his judicial nominees," he said. "Enough is enough!"

Rep. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, vowed to go a step further if needed.

"If necessary, I will offer a constitutional amendment to ensure Americans can voluntarily say the [Pledge of Allegiance] in public and private settings without being in violation of the law," said Graham.

"The reference in the Pledge to being 'one nation under God' is in no way the establishment of religion by the government. If America ever needed God's blessing and guidance, it's now," he concluded.

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To: kattracks
Its time to stop the whacko few and their socialist lawyers from running the country.

Maybe it also time to get the government out of the educatuion business, since we're not allwed a voice in that either.

What happened to the other thread?

41 posted on 06/26/2002 3:44:48 PM PDT by oyez
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To: JulieRNR21
Uh, Julie...they were appointed by Nixon, Bush I and Carter. On this one, sorry to say Clinton's innocent.

And I never thought I'd see the day I'd type Clinton and innocent in the same sentence! :-)

42 posted on 06/26/2002 3:46:28 PM PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: DJ88
Don't you understand that if my children were going to public school, which thank God they are not, that they would not be allowed to recite the Pledge of Allegiance? This idiotic ruling handed down today by two liberal leftist judges told this country NO MORE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IT'S UNCONSITUTIONAL. What don't YOU understand about that???

Wrong. The headlines say the pledge is unconstitutional, not the ruling. The ruling says that teachers can't recite it with "under god".

It does not prevent your children from saying it. As far as I can tell, it does not prevent a teacher from reciting it without the "under god".

43 posted on 06/26/2002 3:46:29 PM PDT by mlo
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To: nofriendofbills
Uh,oh
44 posted on 06/26/2002 3:47:12 PM PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: kattracks
Alfred Goodwin
506 Court of Appeals Bldg, 125 S Grand Ave, Box 91510
Pasadena, CA 91109-1510
Phone: (818) 583-7100

His address and another Phone number, also other address and phone numbers of the 9th federal circuit

45 posted on 06/26/2002 3:47:25 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: JulieRNR21
Listen to the news..........the country is FURIOUS........just furious!
46 posted on 06/26/2002 3:47:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Sounds like we need someone like Rep Chris Cox on this Court of Appeals and the sooner the better. Wonder if Feinstein and Boxer will object this time?

Jeff Sessions from Alabama is slamming the RATS for not approving Pres Bush's nominees right now. He is doing fantastic! Been talking about activists Courts. We never had a problem with this for 50 years. He also went after the SCOTUS for their rulings on prayers at Football games, graduation, etc.
47 posted on 06/26/2002 3:47:46 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Mat_Helm
I am with you. I am just flat out furious.....I cannot remember when I have been this mad!
48 posted on 06/26/2002 3:48:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: southern rock
I honestly believe we have one party or ruling class with two parts (Dem and Rep.) who alternate their time in office back and forth just for grins. Not really...but the idea that the Republican party is ideologically different from the Democratic party is insanity. I guess I'm not that surprised that this Pledge non-issue is causing so much heat and so little light...but I am saddened.
49 posted on 06/26/2002 3:48:52 PM PDT by Sid Rich
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To: Howlin
Every newscast I have heard is talking about how mad the people are and the fact that daschle is holding up Pres Bush's common sense nominees for judges.
50 posted on 06/26/2002 3:49:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: kattracks
Signed petition!!
51 posted on 06/26/2002 3:49:47 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: nofriendofbills
The one appointed by Bush I dissented from the opinion. Also, the judge Nixon appointed was appointed when the dems had a big majority in the Senate. (Just thought I would point out the importance of getting the Senate back!)
52 posted on 06/26/2002 3:50:02 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"... I see this as possibly the last straw before the people rise up and really take back their country from the America-haters and atheists who control it."

I see several haystacks of general apathy and a herd of strong-backed camels.

53 posted on 06/26/2002 3:50:22 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: kattracks
If America ever needed God's blessing and guidance, it's nowain't that the truth!

I just made a big sign for my truck window. In big bold letters: "One Nation Under God" and "In God we trust".

54 posted on 06/26/2002 3:51:01 PM PDT by knak
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To: Howlin
I am with you. I am just flat out furious.....I cannot remember when I have been this mad!

With all the real substantive issues out there to be mad about, why should this little trifle trigger such rage? Talk about your style over substance, I thought that's what we always criticized the liberals about.

55 posted on 06/26/2002 3:51:22 PM PDT by mlo
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To: PhiKapMom
This is where We the People need to stand up and be counted, by praying in unison at graduations etc. Take the Kids to school and say the Pledge at the Flag pole, parents and kids together. First Monday in October have a 1,000,000 Americans recite the Pledge on the steps of the Supreme Court!

Let the Revolution Begin!!!

56 posted on 06/26/2002 3:52:45 PM PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: mlo
I wish there had been this much outrage...heck...any outrage over Bush's bizarre recent spending spree.
57 posted on 06/26/2002 3:52:48 PM PDT by Sid Rich
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To: mlo
The American Revolution started over a tax on tea, it's called the straw that broke the camels back.
58 posted on 06/26/2002 3:53:51 PM PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: PhiKapMom
The 9th District judges seem to overlook the fact that we have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
59 posted on 06/26/2002 3:54:03 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: kattracks
Thanks for the Petition; it's been sent to everyone I know. This judge has got to GO.
60 posted on 06/26/2002 3:54:41 PM PDT by Peach
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