FREEP THIS POLL - Aid and abet illegal aliens?

Arizona Daily Star ^ | 6/24/02 | Arizona Daily Star

[Tancredo Fan]

Some aid groups have been placing water jugs in the Arizona desert to help those crossing illegally from Mexico. What's your opinion of this practice? (Poll appears down the page a ways.)

Personally I think those clowns from Humane Borders ought to be in prison.

[Tancredo Fan]

Ping!

[Puppage]

They'll need some "starting out" money, too. Perhaps, we should leave the doors to the bank open, along with the water jugs?

[dougherty]

Let's build a five-star hotel out in the desert for them as well. Hey, these future Republicans deserve to be pampered.

[Thorondir]

The illegal aliens are committing a crime and those who provide the means for them are (according to AZ state law) facilitating a crime. It's illegal and actionable. Why aren't they being arrested?

[arthurus]

That's just plinking targets. They are usually used immediately, however. If these folks are just going to leave their targets sitting around, then other folks should take advantage with their 22s and 308s

[Gaston]

If we start a rumor that the water in these jugs is drugged and high tech sensors send out a beacon to the border patrol if the jugs are opened the illegals should avoid them.

[gubamyster]

Some aid groups have been placing water jugs in the Arizona desert to help those crossing illegally from Mexico. What's your opinion of this practice?
I approve — it will save lives 7%
I disapprove — it will just encourage more people to cross 92%
Don't know 0%
114 votes

[KirklandJunction]

Locals told the gummint where the footprints were. Gummint it was fed land.
Locals asked the gummint to either patrol better, or put out water, or pick up the bodies.
Gummint says they're too busy (!) and don't have the resources. They are busy, they've just finished a big report on how many of their vehicles break down.
Besides that, actually going out there means leaving air conditioning!
Locals suggest reshaping water tanks (ponds to you non-participants) to help prevent live walkers becoming dead floaters, or to prevent dyhydration.
Gummint said reshaping, in any way, fed land needs permission from headquarters, study in D.C., consultion with Earth First, Bunny Huggers, and lots of other suits that have limos in Washington D.C.
Meanwhile, gummint says any vigilante reshaping on fed land can result in arrests.
Sometimes the walkers go onto private land, and die in private tanks. Then gummint comes out to write tickets for private property owners having dead bodies. Gummint won't pick-em up, just write tickets. Writing paper can be best done in air conditioning.

Leave water jugs? Hell yes, with food, and good maps to Colorado!

[Constitutions Grandchild]

I'm in favor of giving anyone a glass of water. As to the hospital bills, I am in favor of sending them to President Fox. I think when he gets the bills for the medical care across the extent of the border, he will do a little more to discourage the illegals from making a crossing. I think a good argument for the bottled water bill could be made in that same manner. I don't think I would allow anyone to die, but I get a bill at the end of all the love and care I receive should I become ill, and I get one for my family members, too -- not to mention the family pets. After all the, "Oh, you poor baby," comes the, "Pay up or else."

[hunter112]

I imagine some vigilantes will be supplying their own "water" jugs.

[Chi-Town Lady]

I imagine some vigilantes will be supplying their own "water" jugs.

One can only hope!

[KirklandJunction]

Damn right. For the ones that just want freedom, hell yes!

For the doper mules and coyotes, no way!

For the university tweakers with their boutique brush guard grills who still get their Range Rover stuck, I'll cheerfully point in the direction of the nearest Marriott after I arrange for a tow truck.

[DumpsterDiver]

As to the hospital bills, I am in favor of sending them to President Fox.

Just stop all wire transfers of money into Mexico. Fox counts on all that cash from illegal aliens.

[Dimensio]

What is with this conservative trend of treating illegal immigrants like criminals? Have they broken any laws?

[Tancredo Fan]

Have they broken any laws?

Yes. BTW... they're illegal aliens. Immigrants come here with permission.

[mvpel]

Arizona Revised Statutes on trespassing.

And under 18 USC 1325(a), entering the US at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers is a 2-year felony, and under Section 1327, knowingly aiding or assisting an illegal alien who is a felon, spy, terrorist, or member of a totalitarian party, in entering the US is a 10-year felony.

So it seems to me that under 18 USC 2(a), "Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal," the people who are leaving water out for the illegal immigrants are punishable as principals under 18 USC 1325(a) at the very least. Anyone in Arizona want to start pressuing the Attorney General's office to start bringing charges, or start making citizens arrests of the people leaving the water out at the water stands?

[KirklandJunction]

If I leave a jug of water on the fed ground, I'm littering.

If I leave a jug of water on my own land, both are my property.

Trying to prove, especially in a court by trial of my peers, that I knew and planned to abet aliens (who are innocent until proven guilty) has the chance of a snow ball in my back yard today.

Unless of course, some fed locks me up without due process, which is a burgeoning unconstitional trend championed by some FreeRepublic readers....

[mvpel]

I had gathered that there are organizations that are explicitly and openly providing or advocating the providing of water with the express purpose of aiding and abetting illegal immigrants. Is that not the case?

Certainly if you leave a jug of water on your own land, proving any intent to aid or abet illegal immigrants would be dicey -- you may have just left it there for your own use as you're out riding fences or what have you. It would get easier, though, if you left it next to a well-trammeled, garbage-strewn path across your property that leads straight to the international border.

What's the point of having an impassable desert on your border if you do whatever you can to make it passable?

[Brownie74]

I approve — it will save lives 3%

I disapprove — it will just encourage more people to cross 95%

Don't know 0%

344 votes

I am 2 for 2 today. I'm in the 95% category.