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A well written though, of necessity, superficial essay on how victim disarmament has not made the UK safer. Hardly a surprise to members of this forum, I suspect, but it seems that the poms need to have this pounded into them.
1 posted on 06/24/2002 11:01:21 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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These changes were made without public knowledge or debate.

And that's precisely what so infuriated gun owners during the Clinton administration - the "I'm going to stretch this just as far as I can" attitude (his words) that resulted in "sensible" legislation being turned into oppressive regulation in the complete absence of judicial or legislative review. I, for one, can do with lots less of the "we need to be more like Europe" mantra the antigun people are so fond of - we don't, and this is the reason why not. The British public did not, after all, suddenly wake up one morning and decide it didn't need firearms any more - that decision was never in their hands.

2 posted on 06/24/2002 11:15:05 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Well, folks, this is where we are headed unless we stand up and say, "Hell, no!" Will we?
3 posted on 06/24/2002 11:15:28 AM PDT by Henrietta
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4 posted on 06/24/2002 11:17:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: white trash redneck
Self-defence, William Blackstone, the 18th century English jurist, wrote, is a natural right that no government can deprive people of, since no government can protect the individual in his moment of need.

England hates her subjects and wishes they would all die.

6 posted on 06/24/2002 11:22:51 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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Most familiar is the 1999 case of Tony Martin, a 55-year-old Norfolk farmer, victim of six robberies, who shot two professional thieves when they broke into his home at night to rob him yet again. Like 70 per cent of rural villages his had no police presence. He received a life sentence for killing one burglar, 10 years for wounding the second, and 12 months for having an illegal shotgun. The wounded burglar is already free.

Well, society is certainly protecting 'Tony' now! This article is seriously unbelievable which is a problem. We just refuse to believe that anything like that will happen here. The lesson I take from this farmer story is that after you shoot the bad-guys, bury them on your farm and tell no one. I'm OK with that.

7 posted on 06/24/2002 11:24:21 AM PDT by mad puppy
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Clearly the British have not yet gone far enough. If a defender possesses arms and hands, clearly they are in illegal possession of an offensive weapon. Even a one-legged man with no arms should be prosecuted if he attempts to kick his attackers. /sarcasm
10 posted on 06/24/2002 11:30:24 AM PDT by Sender
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To: white trash redneck
Dave Kopel wrote a great article about British incrementalism entitled All the Way Down the Slippery Slope: Gun Prohibition in England and Some Lessons for Civil Liberties in America

 

Send a Gun to Defend a British Home

Image courtesy Hodgdon.com.

11 posted on 06/24/2002 12:06:36 PM PDT by Fixit
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The really sad part of this article is that there are US commie politicians, Kennedy, Nadler, Biden, Schmuckie and many other ultra-left wing, extremist liberals who read this and think to themselves, "Yeah, that's the way it should work."
12 posted on 06/24/2002 12:07:53 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: white trash redneck
Btt
15 posted on 06/24/2002 12:36:44 PM PDT by Abundy
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Britain now has the government Hitler would have given it had he won the war.

My wife wants a vacation there. I told her to forget about it until some sanity returns to those people. Probably not in our lifetime.

16 posted on 06/24/2002 12:46:40 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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I wonder if the folks in England who study martial arts will have to turn in their hands and feet 'cause they are dangerous weapons?
19 posted on 06/24/2002 1:30:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: white trash redneck; All
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21 posted on 06/24/2002 4:07:39 PM PDT by backhoe
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It must be something in their tea. Did they switch brands in the early 20th century?
24 posted on 06/24/2002 6:45:33 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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. In 1994, an English homeowner, armed with a toy gun, managed to detain two burglars
who had broken into his house, while he called the police. When the officers
arrived they arrested the homeowner for using an imitation gun to threaten or
intimidate. Now the police are pressing parliament to make imitation guns illegal.


Sometimes knowledge reduces the opportunity for laughter.

If I was less well informed, I would have chuckled and said "Yep, this must be from
The Onion!".
26 posted on 06/24/2002 6:53:50 PM PDT by VOA
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