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California: Terror risk of 9 dams at issue
The Long Beach Press Telegram ^ | : Sunday, June 23, 2002 | Nicole M. Campbell

Posted on 06/23/2002 3:13:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation has been asked by the Los Angeles County Department of Public Works to study nine regional dams to assess the threat of terrorism and other risks. "It's not like we think we're a big target but you never know," said Ken Pellman, the county's public works spokesman. "We're taking precautions just in case. Why wouldn't our dams be taken out? They're there for a reason."

Big Dalton, Big Tujunga, Cogswell, Morris, Pacoima, Puddingstone, San Dimas, San Gabriel and Santa Anita dams will be studied at the request of county officials. Santa Fe Dam in Irwindale will not be in the study because it is run by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Pellman said.

With the exception of Big Tujunga and Pacoima, all of the sites are in the East San Gabriel Valley, most in the foothills above Monrovia, Azusa and Glendora.

"I think the threat assessment is great, and I hope they get a precise professional with a military background and somebody that knows about the Middle East," said Gary Elrod, operator of the San Dimas Dam in San Dimas Canyon. "History and time shows that during war, dams have always been targets."

Prompted by a federal government report that noted possible terrorist targets, the study, expected not to cost more than $42,000, will identify vulnerabilities in the dams that could pose a threat.

"We're not responding to any particular threat we've been given," Pellman said. "We're trying to find out what could possibly be a problem in the future."

Officials want to find out how to improve security around the sites.

"We're going to do everything we can to make the dams as secure as possible," Pellman said. "It could be simple things, it doesn't have to be anything really grand."

There have been other changes at area dams since Sept. 11. Officials no longer give tours, and locks have been changed.

But Elrod said at the San Dimas Dam, which is dry, anyone in a car can drive alongside the facility. He also said because it's too expensive to dig a new well to serve those who live on site, nobody will be on the grounds around-the-clock beginning in a few months.

Part of the study will try to determine how many people would be affected should a dam disaster occur.

The city of Azusa, downstream from some of the dams, addresses that concern in its emergency plan, said Mayor Cristina Madrid, adding that residents remember how severe floods affected the area in the 1930s and 1970s.

"That's really the legacy of Azusa, that we're right here within the flood plain," Madrid said. "We're glad that (the dams are) being assessed."

Pellman said it's hoped the county Public Works Department will receive the study results in six months to nine months.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; claifornia; dams; jihadinamerica; terror; terrorism; terrorwarning
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1 posted on 06/23/2002 3:13:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 06/23/2002 3:14:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
WE NEED TO BE DAM VIGILANT!

(OK, somebody had to say it) <|:)~

3 posted on 06/23/2002 3:17:28 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So what's gonna happen to their dams? Somebody gonna run up and smack'em with a stick?
4 posted on 06/23/2002 3:17:54 PM PDT by edger
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To: edger
They should definitely be on the lookout for terrorists flying B-52s loaded with several hundred bombs, as well as terrorists who have figured out how to cause 8.0 earthquakes.
5 posted on 06/23/2002 3:42:10 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Didn't the California liberals refuse to pay Federal taxes this year because they didn't support the war on terror? Hmmmm. Decisions, decisions.
6 posted on 06/23/2002 3:47:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Dog Gone
Two scuba-gear clad Middle-Eastern men are planning to steal a cropduster, parachute into a lake, shoot the dam on the way down with shoulder-fired Stinger missiles, land near their C-4 laden kayak.  If they missed the dam with the missiles, they're going to scuba dive to the dam with the explosives.  For good measure, their three Middle-Eastern jihad brothers will be driving over the dam with a stolen tanker truck loaded with liquid propane, pipe bombs in hand and ready to blow.

What did I leave out? Stolen ambulances?

7 posted on 06/23/2002 3:49:34 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
...missiles, and land near their...
8 posted on 06/23/2002 3:50:56 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Big Dalton, Big Tujunga, Cogswell, Morris, Pacoima, Puddingstone, San Dimas, San Gabriel and Santa Anita dams will be studied at the request of county officials. Santa Fe Dam in Irwindale will not be in the study because it is run by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Pellman said.

With the exception of Big Tujunga and Pacoima, all of the sites are in the East San Gabriel Valley, most in the foothills above Monrovia, Azusa and Glendora.

Right clever of those left coasties to provide the terrorists with a handy list of targets -- complete with their locations... Here in TX we call that "being eat up with the 'dumba$$'"!

TXnMA (no longer!!!)

9 posted on 06/23/2002 3:55:58 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Nita Nupress
What did I leave out? Stolen ambulances?

Yes, that and the bag of some powder they were dumping into the water somewhere during that sequence.

I think it was good enough to earn the $42,000, though.

10 posted on 06/23/2002 4:04:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Well, if they used Tesla's "Earthquake Machine," maybe they could actually bring the thing down that way.
11 posted on 06/23/2002 5:47:29 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Dog Gone
Very amusing. However, since I live eight miles directly downstream from Hemet's Diamond Valley Reservoir, which holds far more water than all the dams in southern California combined, I'm sure hoping they don't figure it out!
12 posted on 06/23/2002 6:09:44 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6
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To: TXnMA
TXnMA (no longer!!!)

I take it you finally made it back? Feels good, doesn't it? I don't know how you lived through it for twenty years. I could barely survive two! Welcome home!


13 posted on 06/23/2002 6:12:12 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Now if they would just go up to Northern California, and knock down the Oroville Dam, they could flush Sacramento and Governor Davis right into the San Francisco Bay.
14 posted on 06/23/2002 6:41:28 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You mean to tell me this hasn't been done already?!! What the hell is wrong with these people? Don't they read the papers?
15 posted on 06/23/2002 6:58:44 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: sailor4321
Yur HomeLand Security Farce At Work .. 37 Billion :-?
16 posted on 06/23/2002 7:03:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Should I call Nicole and tell her that her list is rather incomplete!

It is a local call for me!

17 posted on 06/23/2002 7:10:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TommyDale
..."Now if they would just go up to Northern California, and knock down the Oroville Dam, they could flush Sacramento and Governor Davis right into the San Francisco Bay."
Should not be to hard to do. Oroville Dam is a earthen dam I beleive
18 posted on 06/23/2002 7:12:35 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Those were only the Dams in LA County.
19 posted on 06/23/2002 7:13:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I know this is not politically correct, but might I dare suggest that we actually ask who the he$$ is coming into this country? Some non-pc border measures (lead peanuts instead of water fountains, etc.)

I loved the South Korean approach (79 - 80, TDY 81 - 82, several times after that) - when a boat approached the shoreline - gosh, gee - they shot first!

Stationed at Kunsan AB - Yellow Sea, spitting distance from the runways. The ROK did not f**k around. Several F-4's (world famous Fighter-Bomber, mostly bomber) left fully loaded and came back empty. Funny thing was that the flying time to the range did not match. Gee, wonder where they dropped the ordinance?

The US could stand to learn a lesson or two.

LVM

20 posted on 06/23/2002 7:40:49 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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