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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: Texasforever
"...for every thing Bush has done there is at least one so-called "conservative" group that applauds it while there is another so-called "conservative" faction that hates it."

Except for a few folks complaining it was too small and too far in the future, I don't know of anyone against Dubyuh's tax cut, and I believe the Right will rally behind Dubyuh if he seriously endeavors to cut back on the Size and Reach of the Federal Leviathan!! Of course there are internal factions on various issues, but Dubyuh's spent the last nine months pickin' up chits from the Left and Center by adopting much of their Agenda...it's time he started demonstrating how the GOP really IS different from the RATS!! I still believe they are, but we need to make the case--prominently, proudly, and indisputedly--to the American Sheeple between now and November. We convince folks how much better life will be with a GOP-controlled Senate, and we'll get the numbers necessary to pass some good legislation for the next two years.

"THERE IS NO CONSERVATIVE BASE."

I absolutely disagree!! When Reagan ran a bold campaign in 1980 and 1984, the Base showed up and was counted!! In '94, when the GOP boldly ran on the "Contract With America," the Base showed itself again. The Base, IMHO, believes that the Federal Guv'ment is not the best place to fix all of this Nation's problems, no matter who's sitting in the White House. Dubyuh needs to throw the Base some bones by setting out a few good, solid RightWing Agenda items that he can take directly to the Voters...Personal Retirement Accounts, Optional School Vouchers, maybe even shrinking a Federal Department or two, we need to differentiate ourselves from the RATS!!

"I don't blame him for telling many of us to take a hike."

He's never told me to take a hike, although he has ignored some pretty solid advice I've generously forwarded to his attention over the last nine months...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

661 posted on 06/22/2002 7:50:30 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Don Myers
They have lost the country.

Don we never "had" the country in the first place. No one "has" the country and never has.

662 posted on 06/22/2002 7:50:55 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Twodees; Texasforever
Every election since '88 has seen more conservatives taking their ball and going home. Why not, when the best you can hope for is to have a republican signing the same legislation a democrat would? It's past time to dump the old two party system, and the longer we put it off, the closer we get to being unable to do so.

I think the answer is best stated in Texasforever's post:

"If you want true conservative governance then you have to have a true conservative voting public. Even then there is no actual "conservative" base."

However, IMO, if you just can't stomach the choices, you'd be better off voting third party than not voting at all. That way you send the message that you want another choice (as opposed to you're too apathetic to be bothered with going to the polls) loud and clear.

663 posted on 06/22/2002 7:52:07 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Texasforever
"Don we never "had" the country in the first place. No one "has" the country and never has."

If you consider the country as only land, you have a point. If you think of the country as its people, you do not have a point. If the left controls the thought and actions of the people, they have the country.

664 posted on 06/22/2002 7:52:43 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Then, the right has lost.

If you think that conservative success requires that we remake this country to look like it did in 1787, or 1857, or 1927, or 1957, then conservatism is doomed.

665 posted on 06/22/2002 7:52:48 PM PDT by ned
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To: Mudboy Slim
Reagan's "base" was the newly emerging religious right and the Reagan Democrats. The Goldwater conservatives hated his guts.

666 posted on 06/22/2002 7:53:36 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Uh .... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to gather from your half-assed one liner as I honestly can't make any sense of it whatsoever.

You should stick to twiddling around with the squaws from those pathetic DitL threads. Over there they think intellectual pikers are cute and funny.... even sexy.

667 posted on 06/22/2002 7:53:48 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: ned
"If you think that conservative success requires that we remake this country to look like it did in 1787, or 1857, or 1927, or 1957, then conservatism is doomed."

Perception is all, isn't it? Do you want the conservatism of the Reagan years?

668 posted on 06/22/2002 7:54:27 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: DeathtoAraratHamasHizbollah; sinkspur
"DeathtoAraratHamasHizbollah
No current freeper by that name"

Dang, another one bitesthe dust.

And another one bites, another one bites, another one bites the dust....bomp bomp bomp....another one bites the dust....

669 posted on 06/22/2002 7:54:48 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: rockfish59
If you think it is "AIDS for Africa", then you surely do not know what you are saying and are jumping on the Bash Bush Bandwagon. Have a nice (braindead) ride.
670 posted on 06/22/2002 7:56:06 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Texasforever
I don't see the NWO as the threat.

The real threat is that there will be so many people riding in the wagon, and so few pulling, that the whole system grinds to a halt. At that point, most of the average Americans you describe will be standing around asking, "hey, what happened to my government check??"

The productive Americans (perhaps already a minority) are starting to realize the extent to which they are being robbed. (Watch what happens to the pharmaceutical industry in the next 2-3 years for a clue). I think we have maybe 20-30 years to reverse this trend before we hit the point of no return.

671 posted on 06/22/2002 7:56:32 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: Tabitha Soren
The difference between Bush and Clinton is that Bush doesn't cheat on his wife. Their politics are nearly identical.

And the difference between YOUR posts and the LIES of the LEFT are

Dang. I can't think of any. Oh well.

672 posted on 06/22/2002 7:57:13 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Jim Robinson; Twodees
What principle are you adhering to by voting for whoever the GOP trots out just because they aren't democrats? Whatever it is, I don't understand that one either.
626 by Twodees


The principle of holding the current position at all costs until reinforcements arrive - as opposed to deserting your posts or surrendering to the enemy.
633 by JR




But if there are no 'reinforcements' in the forseeable future? -- Is it not better to make a strategic retreat, hunker down in your FR bunker, build up new allies and fight on another day?
673 posted on 06/22/2002 7:57:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: AAABEST
Uh .... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to gather from your half-assed one liner as I honestly can't make any sense of it whatsoever.

It is actually quite simple. Either Israel is a sovereign country and Sharon is the leader of that country or it is not. If a Palestinian state is not acceptable then he should stand up and say so and tell Bush to stick it. If not then he is just a whipped pup and he AND Israel have no business pretending they are a nation.

674 posted on 06/22/2002 7:57:32 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: DoughtyOne
"I said that if the Republicans ran George again, I'd probably sit home."

We see now how civic minded you've become, or not... There's more about voting than just voting for someone... Its called citizenship...

675 posted on 06/22/2002 7:58:54 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Charlotte Corday
Well, the Republican Party is just made up of people. A whole lot of them. If you could build up the Libertarian Party or the Reform Party or whichever party you prefer and get it up to a sizable enough membership level that it could possibly win a national election, then you would probably have to include a whole lot of those same Republican people who you now claim to despise. And the Libertarian (or whomever) Party's platform would probably have to be revised somewhat in order to attract all those people. There is no other way to win. You have to attract the votes. And, obviously, if you cannot win, you cannot control the agenda. And seeing as how no third party is going to be able to attract a large enough following in our life time to make much of a difference, we are stuck with the current two party system. Such is life.
676 posted on 06/22/2002 7:58:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: NMC EXP; Reagan Man
This looks like the real thing.

Barry Goldwater's Republican Convention Speech - 1964

677 posted on 06/22/2002 7:59:13 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Admin Moderator
After they get booted, why not post to them "You're FReed!"
678 posted on 06/22/2002 8:00:07 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: AAABEST
You should stick to twiddling around with the squaws from those pathetic DitL threads

Saturday night and no date again huh? I feel your pain here…..put some ice on it. LOL

679 posted on 06/22/2002 8:00:39 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: quidnunc
Well I appreciate being corrected by someone that doesn't even know who Pat's running mate was.  LOL  Thanks for setting me straight.

How many thousand times am I going to have to post this on the forum for people who know absolutely nothing about this subject?  Well, here goes anyway.

Buchanan was attempting to join the Reform Party as per his agreement with RP leadership.  He asked Fulani for her help and she agreed.  He only told her that he would not ask for the Black vote then ignore them for the next four years if he got it.  Fulani recognized this as different that the two main parties and agreed to support him.  He did not agree to support her.  You do know the difference?  Right?

One thing that always amazes me with regard to those who have a problem with Fulani and the Reform Party, until Pat sought to join the party and use Fulani's position within the party, it never bothered anyone that she was there.  Ross Perot's supporters never damned her the way you guys have.  I doubt you ever cared when she was supporting Ross.  What's up with that?

Fulani had run for president herself in 1990.  Laugh if you will, but Fulani was astute enough to get her name on all 50 state's ballots.  That's a huge undertaking and Pat needed her help to accomplish that for himself.  As it is he and she facilitated getting his name on 49 state ballots.

As for going over and seeing Shapton, I'm sure no other candidate in history has every shaken the hand of someone they didn't care for in order to facilitate votes.  Does this mean that Pat became a socialist?  Does this mean that Pat was a supporter of Fulani or Sharpton?   LOL  I'm thinking you do.

Toward the end of Buchanan's campaign Fulani started to make demands on Pat.  Pat severed their relationship.  That's how much clout she had with Pat.

Now, what was it you were saying about howler monkeys wingnut and Stalinists?  Those are some interesting comments from a guy who also critcizes me with regard to credibility when not one single point you made made sense or had any connection to reailty.

680 posted on 06/22/2002 8:01:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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