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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: Jim Robinson
I can't think of a single Democrat whom I would trust or vote for. Can you?

Zell Miller in my state isn't bad, but I'm still going to vote against him (again) in 2006 if he doesn't switch parties.

621 posted on 06/22/2002 7:18:36 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Jim Robinson
No, of course not, but the worry for me is if this forcing the party hard left is a turn successfully made, what kind of future does that bode for conservative principles? Should I be worried, am I reading it all wrong?

I wish we had a Solomon, maybe Bush will do a hard right and suprise us all when he get's his Republican congress and senate.

622 posted on 06/22/2002 7:19:26 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I wish we had a Solomon, maybe Bush will do a hard right and suprise us all when he get's his Republican congress and senate.

That's the spirit!

623 posted on 06/22/2002 7:20:42 PM PDT by ned
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To: Charlotte Corday
Well, I was opposed to Bush in the primaries and that was one of the reasons why. He obviously was not going to go after Clinton. But, Bush is our man now. If you have a viable (electable) alternative, please let us know.
624 posted on 06/22/2002 7:21:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Twodees
"Coop still ain't talking to me, BTW."

Coop busted his hump fer a candidate who was less than many of us wouldda liked, and his "issues" with you were borne out of frustration more than anything. In any event, I don't see Warner doing but so much damage as long as we maintain a strong majority in the legislature.

FReegards...MUD

625 posted on 06/22/2002 7:22:05 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Jim Robinson
I never met a single conservative who thought that Clinton was a better choice than Dole. All of the conservatives I know realized that there wasn't a discernible difference. I'm certainly not willing to sit on my hands and let the democrats have it. I just ain't willing to vote for somebody who may as well be a democrat. How is it more principled to vote for a republican who'll allow a huge national security risk like an open southern border during a war than not to vote? Is pandering to the citizens of another country, here illegally, not corruption? It makes no sense to me to say, "I'm a conservative, dedicated to preserving the Constitution of the US and supporting a return to our founding principles, but I'll vote for a liberal of this party to keep a liberal of the other party from winning". What principle are you adhering to by voting for whoever the GOP trots out just because they aren't democrats? Whatever it is, I don't understand that one either.
626 posted on 06/22/2002 7:22:25 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd sleep soundly after voting for Zell Miller over Libby Dole.
627 posted on 06/22/2002 7:24:31 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: MissAmericanPie
I don't look to Bush making any hard rights. Just hoping he appoints conservative judges (and we can get them through the Senate).
628 posted on 06/22/2002 7:24:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen to that.
629 posted on 06/22/2002 7:26:04 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Map Kernow
RE #165

RIGHT ON BROTHER

You forgot to mention George "Palestinian State as a Reward for Terror" Bush's hypocritical double standard in regard to Palestinian terrorists.

630 posted on 06/22/2002 7:27:02 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Don Myers
The last figures I saw was about 25% that are really FR conservatives. Then you have to do the go into what defines a hard core conservative.

The Social Conservatives

the Libertarian conservatives

The fiscal conservatives

the Paleo-conservatives

The Neo-conservatives

The Isolationist conservatives

and so forth. When you look at the various third parties each party is made up of one faction of that spectrum. There is no hope of a "cooalition 3rd party simply because the existing 3rd parties are completely incompatible. The GOP is a coalition party. It has a significant conservative faction, a VERY LARGE moderate faction and a small liberal faction. However, when you look at committee assignments, the conservatives hold the larger share of chairmanships. That is why it is important to suck it up and elect even RINOs to the senate. It is the numbers that count and who chairs the committees. The GOP is now what Reagan wanted it to be, a big tent party truly capable of a governing majority.

631 posted on 06/22/2002 7:27:45 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
I do not think Bush is a Jim Jeoffards, but we can't continue to vote in people who vote like democrats, are comfortable changing parties or will sign leftist legislation. Yes it will take a while to get back to conservatism in this nation. But burrying us still further in leftist paper isn't the way to accomplish that.

We have long accepted the premise that we must appeal to liberals to get elected. But when we get elected we pass liberal legislation. Then the Dems retake the office and move legislation that is 90 to 95% leftist. Heck, both sides are burying us.

We do it strategicly and they do it because they love the agenda. Either way it sees us burried further and further in the socialist quagmire, further and further from the ideal.

If Bush passes the Kennedy healthcare plan and the medication addendum to Medicare, I don't see how either will be rescinded any more than Social Security or Medicare will be. That's a far worse situation than we were in when Bush took office.

632 posted on 06/22/2002 7:28:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Twodees
The principle of holding the current position at all costs until reinforcements arrive - as opposed to deserting your posts or surrendering to the enemy.

633 posted on 06/22/2002 7:29:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Zack Nguyen
Point taken.

I should have clarified better what I was thinking when saying what the President and First lady think "doesn't matter".

I can't disagree with any of your post.

I believe Bush is pro-life and really couldn't care less what the First lady thinks because I believe she respects his position.

There's someone who would rather not be bothered with the issue of life. Here is a politician who will not lift a finger to truly enact real reform.

I know I've thought that way too and still do - but as conservatism goes don't wait for a politician to make some law - change people yourself - get involved...
We can thank Dashhole (and his idiot voters in SD) for plugging up judicial hearings and stopping reform.
634 posted on 06/22/2002 7:30:08 PM PDT by oline
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To: quidnunc
bump to meself
635 posted on 06/22/2002 7:32:28 PM PDT by whenigettime
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To: Jim Robinson
Say Jim, thanks for the discussion. I'm looking forward to seeing you Mama Bear and the rest of the Fresno Freepers on the 12th. Take care.

I understand where you're coming from. I'm just very frustrated these days.

636 posted on 06/22/2002 7:32:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Charlotte Corday
Well good for you. You deserve a good rest.
637 posted on 06/22/2002 7:32:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: AAABEST
Tell your sad story to Sharon.
638 posted on 06/22/2002 7:33:12 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
"That is why it is important to suck it up and elect even RINOs to the senate. "

These people are like sleeper cells of terrorists waiting for the right moment to attack. You cannot trust them. I often hear people say that there is no one else whom we can elect, and we just don't have conservatives willing to take office. I believe that both parties rig their candidate elections so that we don't have a real choice. I think that both parties are simply screwing the voters. Neither party has the interests of the country in mind. They are all about power to the ruling class.

639 posted on 06/22/2002 7:34:28 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Redleg Duke
"...they are hoping for the "revolution" and "bloodbath"..."

Hopefully, I'm not included in the "they" you describe here, but admittedly, many of us are increasingly frustrated by OUR SIDE's apparent willingness to grow the Federal Leviathan just as rapidly as the Left. Many of us have worked for years to get the GOP into as advantageous of a position as we find ourselves today, and it seems all we get from the Pubbies regarding domestic policy is timidity. As the DemonRAT base contains too many folks from the "gimme-gimme-gimme" cartel, I can't see where I'll ever vote for them, but it's getting increasingly difficult to convince family, friends, and co-workers how the GOP is that much different from the RATS, and why they ought to join me in actively shilling for the allegedly more conservative Party.

"...after all, I am apparently a "Bushbot"."

Heck, I've been called a "Bushbot" and a "BushBasher" on the same thread...those name-callers belittle their argument on both sides. Still, I will maintain my right to humbly offer Dubyuh my on-Forum counsel when I feel he's strayed too far to the Left, and folks who continue to admonish me for it will have to keep on admonishing until Dubyuh begins fightin' fer conservative principles the way I elected him to!!

FReegards...MUD

640 posted on 06/22/2002 7:35:19 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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