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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: Roscoe
Yeah bud, so you really made a point there didn't you. Bush still passes the legislation into law by signing it. Semanticly you've just wasted your time and mine. Good job.
1,201 posted on 06/23/2002 1:23:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 2ndTimeAround
Thanks swami.
1,202 posted on 06/23/2002 1:24:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
1. And that explains Bush's proclivity to pass liberal legislation?

2. Bush still passes the legislation into law by signing it.

Clintonian parsing.

1,203 posted on 06/23/2002 1:25:49 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Yes, nevermind what I said is true, find some way to insult me. Oh well, par for the course.
1,204 posted on 06/23/2002 1:28:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You live in that world where a candidate with the support of roughly 1% of the voters would slam legislation past a Senate controlled by the opposition.

You're too generous. Buchanan fell well short of 1%.

1,205 posted on 06/23/2002 1:28:23 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Roscoe; 2ndTimeAround
Good night guys.
1,206 posted on 06/23/2002 1:29:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Every time I cool off over the last nonsense Bush has foisted off on us, he supports some other lunacy.

Then perhaps your should stop imaging so much of what you accuse the President off. Perhaps one quarter of your accusations against him seemed to be loosely based on truth, the rest seems the product of an overactive imagination and bitterness. Besides, you are wasting too much time complaining about the President. Given your concerns about immigration and your own political philosophy on how to win by loosing, you should be taking Spanish classes instead.

1,207 posted on 06/23/2002 1:29:17 AM PDT by 2ndTimeAround
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To: DoughtyOne
Yes, nevermind what I said is true

It isn't.

1,208 posted on 06/23/2002 1:30:16 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: 2ndTimeAround
I must admit, I should never underestimate your ability to stoop beneath reality to find a hairbrained arguement.
1,209 posted on 06/23/2002 1:30:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
But you do so well at stooping beneath reality...your whole philosphy is built on it.
1,210 posted on 06/23/2002 1:31:21 AM PDT by 2ndTimeAround
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To: Roscoe
Yes it is. But like I used to tell my children, you don't have to agree. It's just a fact of life. It's really amazing how many times words to them fit the situation when I'm dealing with the "intellectuals" that support Bush.
1,211 posted on 06/23/2002 1:32:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 2ndTimeAround
Look guy, you're the one in denial. Your boy keeps foisting off liberal slop and you keep swallowing it. That's reality. Trying to move the topic off Bush to others who are not holding office is the best you can do. I truly feel sorry for you. Your guy won and you're stuck with a man you can't defend on topic.
1,212 posted on 06/23/2002 1:33:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Wait, now. You said that they would have done this from Canada if not from the US. Why didn't they? Because they could do it from here, including going to flight school. That shows that we have a serious immigration problem when Mohammed Atta strolls through INS and Customs despite the fact that he's on a terrorist watchlist. La Migra are the ones who watch people coming into the country, so an immigration problem becomes a national security failure. No immigration problem? Not much of one. We just have a few million people who don't belong here, voting in our elections, and every now and then killing a few thousand of us at a pop. Oh, and we can't deport them because some Senator has managed to get passed some cockamamie laws which entirely nullify all the regulations concerning immigration by making deportation a matter for civil courts. If we could deport them, we don't know where to find most of the ones who came here legally and local LE is told to ignore the ones they see every day who are obviously illegals. What does it take to get you to see that something's wrong, Luis? I'm not a bright guy like you and I can see that something just ain't working like it's supposed to.
1,213 posted on 06/23/2002 1:35:27 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: DoughtyOne
No, Congress passes legislation. It comes to the President's desk as an all or nothing package with the compromises having already worked out in the House and Senate.

Read a book.

1,214 posted on 06/23/2002 1:35:36 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Tabitha Soren
"We had to destroy the village to save it." (US General Patton, 1967)

"I would sign an executive order TODAY making it a federal crime punishable by execution to be involved in an abortion in any way (an eye for an eye)." (US Freeper Tabitha Soren, 2002)

You would teach "respect for life" by taking one (many). You're a disgrace to that which you claim to advocate. Plus, you can't and probably will never, be able to learn from history. Should you be "diciplined"?

1,215 posted on 06/23/2002 1:38:32 AM PDT by botweiler
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To: Roscoe
Roscoe, grow up. We both know the process.
1,216 posted on 06/23/2002 1:40:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Roscoe
Well then hotshot, if the Congress passes the legislation into law all by itself, I'm sure you can explain a pocket veto for the forum. Can the Congress override a pocket veto? Can Congress pass that legislation into being without the President's signature?

I'm waiting Roscoe?

1,217 posted on 06/23/2002 1:43:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Words are so revealing. Denial, stuck, foisting.

Denial is not realizing that your candidate did not win. As you keep forgetting, my candidate didn’t win. I moved on.

You are stuck with this President, I’m not. I accepted him as President and given the current situation I am glad that he won. He has weaknesses but he has demonstrated some tremendous strengths.

As for foisting I wish I had only two pounds of the stuff you are foisting. It would do wonders for my roses.

Can any true conservative actually state that we wouldn't be better off if the Republicans had been crushed in 2000?

When you ask questions like that you would be well advised to avoid discussion of denial, stuck, reality and foisting.

1,218 posted on 06/23/2002 1:46:29 AM PDT by 2ndTimeAround
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To: 2ndTimeAround
Once again you can't deal with the issue at hand.  Does Bush pass liberal agenda items?  Even the 20thTimeAround you still can't deal with it.  That is denial.
1,219 posted on 06/23/2002 1:49:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Registered
I'm surprised no one has posted this yet.....


1,220 posted on 06/23/2002 1:50:21 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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