Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack

The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

[DoughtyOne]

Yeah bud, so you really made a point there didn't you. Bush still passes the legislation into law by signing it. Semanticly you've just wasted your time and mine. Good job.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks swami.

[Roscoe]

1. And that explains Bush's proclivity to pass liberal legislation?

2. Bush still passes the legislation into law by signing it.

Clintonian parsing.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, nevermind what I said is true, find some way to insult me. Oh well, par for the course.

[Roscoe]

You live in that world where a candidate with the support of roughly 1% of the voters would slam legislation past a Senate controlled by the opposition.

You're too generous. Buchanan fell well short of 1%.

[DoughtyOne]

Good night guys.

[2ndTimeAround]

Every time I cool off over the last nonsense Bush has foisted off on us, he supports some other lunacy.

Then perhaps your should stop imaging so much of what you accuse the President off. Perhaps one quarter of your accusations against him seemed to be loosely based on truth, the rest seems the product of an overactive imagination and bitterness. Besides, you are wasting too much time complaining about the President. Given your concerns about immigration and your own political philosophy on how to win by loosing, you should be taking Spanish classes instead.

[Roscoe]

Yes, nevermind what I said is true

It isn't.

[DoughtyOne]

I must admit, I should never underestimate your ability to stoop beneath reality to find a hairbrained arguement.

[2ndTimeAround]

But you do so well at stooping beneath reality...your whole philosphy is built on it.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes it is. But like I used to tell my children, you don't have to agree. It's just a fact of life. It's really amazing how many times words to them fit the situation when I'm dealing with the "intellectuals" that support Bush.

[DoughtyOne]

Look guy, you're the one in denial. Your boy keeps foisting off liberal slop and you keep swallowing it. That's reality. Trying to move the topic off Bush to others who are not holding office is the best you can do. I truly feel sorry for you. Your guy won and you're stuck with a man you can't defend on topic.

[Twodees]

Wait, now. You said that they would have done this from Canada if not from the US. Why didn't they? Because they could do it from here, including going to flight school. That shows that we have a serious immigration problem when Mohammed Atta strolls through INS and Customs despite the fact that he's on a terrorist watchlist. La Migra are the ones who watch people coming into the country, so an immigration problem becomes a national security failure. No immigration problem? Not much of one. We just have a few million people who don't belong here, voting in our elections, and every now and then killing a few thousand of us at a pop. Oh, and we can't deport them because some Senator has managed to get passed some cockamamie laws which entirely nullify all the regulations concerning immigration by making deportation a matter for civil courts. If we could deport them, we don't know where to find most of the ones who came here legally and local LE is told to ignore the ones they see every day who are obviously illegals. What does it take to get you to see that something's wrong, Luis? I'm not a bright guy like you and I can see that something just ain't working like it's supposed to.

[Roscoe]

No, Congress passes legislation. It comes to the President's desk as an all or nothing package with the compromises having already worked out in the House and Senate.

Read a book.

[botweiler]

"We had to destroy the village to save it." (US General Patton, 1967)

"I would sign an executive order TODAY making it a federal crime punishable by execution to be involved in an abortion in any way (an eye for an eye)." (US Freeper Tabitha Soren, 2002)

You would teach "respect for life" by taking one (many). You're a disgrace to that which you claim to advocate. Plus, you can't and probably will never, be able to learn from history. Should you be "diciplined"?

[DoughtyOne]

Roscoe, grow up. We both know the process.

[DoughtyOne]

Well then hotshot, if the Congress passes the legislation into law all by itself, I'm sure you can explain a pocket veto for the forum. Can the Congress override a pocket veto? Can Congress pass that legislation into being without the President's signature?

I'm waiting Roscoe?

[2ndTimeAround]

Words are so revealing. Denial, stuck, foisting.

Denial is not realizing that your candidate did not win. As you keep forgetting, my candidate didn’t win. I moved on.

You are stuck with this President, I’m not. I accepted him as President and given the current situation I am glad that he won. He has weaknesses but he has demonstrated some tremendous strengths.

As for foisting I wish I had only two pounds of the stuff you are foisting. It would do wonders for my roses.

Can any true conservative actually state that we wouldn't be better off if the Republicans had been crushed in 2000?

When you ask questions like that you would be well advised to avoid discussion of denial, stuck, reality and foisting.

[DoughtyOne]

Once again you can't deal with the issue at hand.  Does Bush pass liberal agenda items?  Even the 20thTimeAround you still can't deal with it.  That is denial.

[Texaggie79]

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet.....