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Pastor Beaten After Blunt Eulogy
The Carolina Channel ^ | 21 June 02 | AP

Posted on 06/22/2002 6:50:44 AM PDT by aomagrat

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To: aomagrat
Can we get this guy to read both the Clinton's eulogies ?

I'd love to hear it.

141 posted on 06/22/2002 5:41:58 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Hacksaw
"ETD."

?????

142 posted on 06/22/2002 5:44:31 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: aomagrat
I've been to a few bummer funerals, but damn! That takes all!
143 posted on 06/22/2002 5:54:57 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: Jorge
Jesus Christ Himself told people right to their faces that they would die in their sins and if they didn't repent.

But He hadn't risen yet, had He?

144 posted on 06/22/2002 5:55:46 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: DugwayDuke
Actually, if you check the Red/Blue map, Baldwin county went for Bush.

Ummmm, I believe that is one of the things that the preacher was addressing.

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I'm going to have to go to confession for that one. And I'm not even Catholic.

145 posted on 06/22/2002 6:23:00 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Lowelljr
He might of

He might have.

Perhaps this preacher should of

Perhaps this preacher should have.

Apart from that, you're quite right. The preacher preached exactly what he should have.

146 posted on 06/22/2002 6:31:15 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: DugwayDuke
True, a funeral is an emotional time, but it might also be the time when the weight of these words strike home.

No - it is not.

Those people sought someone to help them give a fond goodbye to their loved one. Does the preacher tell them he is going to say this man is going to hell? No, he does not. Why? Because he knows they would find someone else. Therefore, he intends to use this family. Instead of a gentle, kind goodbye to this loved man, the family is forced to sit through an assault on them and have their loved one judged - not by God but by a paid preacher. They are embarrassed, the subject of town gossip and they will never forget the horror of that day. What gives that preacher the right to be the judge of this man? God is our judge. I think the purpose of that preacher is to show God's love and to bring people to God - not to judge where people are going on their death.

God would be better served by the preacher giving a gentle kind message to soothe the loved ones and if need be asking any in attendance to visit his congregation if they would like to make themselves right with God.

But, never, never show that LOVE by kicking people when they are grieving, by insulting the dead, by judging the dead, by giving that family a deep resentment of anything to do with God and adding to their grief and then expecting an honorariam. Then, when presented the truth of his actions, claiming he is trying to reach the living and serve God. This is not serving God - this is using the memory of a loved one as an example at the expense of the remaining loved ones who are already grieving. Very cruel.

147 posted on 06/22/2002 7:04:24 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ
You're reading an awful lot into the meager information given in this article. How you can say this pastor was trying to use this family is beyond me. Can you show me anyting within this article that implies he was trying to use these people?
148 posted on 06/22/2002 7:39:27 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
Do you think the family asked him to speak at the funeral so that he would say so and so is going to hell? Don't you think he knew what he was going to say? Or, as soon as he did decide - don't you think it would be appropriate for him to advise the family that he will be trashing the memory of their loved one? Or, is it supposed to be a surprise to all for the proper effect?

Did he get to show the love of God during the ensuing fisticuffs?

The whole thing was a travesty. A true man of God would have given a respectful goodbye, would not have judged the man and then could ask any that need to get right with God to do so and if they need help, he would be glad to work with them.

I see no need to defend this preacher and I'm sure he is so sure he is in the right to be beyond hearing what any have to say. Yet, by his fruits we will know him. Looks like the fruits led to fisticuffs and a broken nose. Did any get right with God based on his words?

149 posted on 06/22/2002 8:08:01 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Yeti
"Strong and genuine religious sentiment has never had any objection to realism; on the contrary, religion was the realistic thing, the brutal thing, the thing that called names. - GK Chesterton, "Heretics", Chapter 2
150 posted on 06/22/2002 8:12:08 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: DugwayDuke
You are hateful and stupid.
151 posted on 06/22/2002 8:23:04 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: JasonC
You aren't quoting the bible there, are you.

"Brutalize not the children of the recently deceased with imagery of their loved ones in eternal torment." .. Yeti

152 posted on 06/22/2002 8:25:33 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Lightnin
Likewise, I'm sure.
153 posted on 06/22/2002 8:26:13 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Arioch7
Why sue? He got his ass kicked and IMO it was well deserved.

You're right. I would like to say that I wouldn't kick his ass, and would sue instead. But my personal history indicates that I would do what the family did.

154 posted on 06/22/2002 8:27:44 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Simcha7
In the "Church-i-anity" Crowd.

Hmmm...

Do they?

155 posted on 06/22/2002 8:29:23 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: RobbyS
You miss the point, I don't recall John the Baptist condemning anyone as a eulogy at their funeral.
156 posted on 06/22/2002 8:30:36 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: lepton
Based on what? Do you think he signed a contract to "say nice things"?

If I hire you to cater my party without specifying the exact foods to be served, and you serve manure, is that reasonable. Was it honest?

157 posted on 06/22/2002 8:32:31 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: ClancyJ
Absolutely. But I think I would have avoided violence towards the brain dead "preacher". A couple of well placed hockers in his face would sufficed.
158 posted on 06/22/2002 8:39:04 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: DugwayDuke
Do you have a problem with that?

I have a problem with you. You are a creep. You intentionally misstate and seem to misunderstand the matter to justify spiteful and cruel behavior.

You said that "preachers" are called to "preach the word of God." As tried to point out to you in an earlier post, wherein you also dishonestly pretended not to understand the point, "Your Daddy is a fornicator and a drunkard" is not the word of God! The bible is a large book, and there are many "words of God" that this "preacher" could have chosen to preach. He chose to issue his own judgement about an individual instead. The fact that he stood in a church while doing it didn't make "this man was a drunkard and a fornicator" the word of God. It only made the preacher a jerk, like yourself.

159 posted on 06/22/2002 8:42:06 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
No, I'm not. I am not even agreeing with the sentiment, merely reporting it. That religion calls names (or, spades spades) is nothing new, and has long been approved of, by many. If you don't like it, that is your problem.
160 posted on 06/22/2002 8:45:50 PM PDT by JasonC
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