It's Here...The Federal ID card

The Idaho Observer ^ | 6/21/02 | Hari Heath

[B.R. Burton]

It sure would have to be really really potent, as the chip itself is about as small as a grain of rice, in its current state anyway. That would leave very little room for a mini-poison capsule, but who knows. It's just speculation really.

[Bella]

I don't think a small chip would be rejected by the immune system its not analgous to an organ implant its more analgous to a metal plate in your head except it would be smaller( much much smaller) so its even less likely to be rejected then a metal plate in the head.

ANY foreign object implanted can be rejected, including dental implants. Everyone's body reacts differently.

[Richard Kimball]

It's certainly wonderful to have a bunch of "four legs good, two legs bad" people around to ensure us that nothing the government does really invades our privacy. We love taking off our shoes and socks at airports, Mr. Government man. No it doesn't bother us that private pilots have to have a tracking device in their airplanes now.

If it doesn't bother you that nothing that's been done since 9/11 has to do with stopping terrorism and everything to do with strip-searching American citizens and tagging us like migrating geese while the borders remain totally unprotected, I doubt anything will wake you up.

[weikel]

Pure botox can kill you even in extermely minute amounts.

[Sweet_Sunflower29]

Wow...there's the one scenario which never crossed my mind.

Well...till now 'course!

:)

[B.R. Burton]

Hmmm. I do not think that a chip on a credit card would count as your hand. In biblical terms, hand can be the entire arm, and I believe that this chip is a MOCKERY of the Jewish Tefillin. ASk any Orthodox Jew here where the Tefillin go: On the forehead (at the top), and on the hand. lol, most are probably wondering what tefillin are! They are like little black boxes, that contain scriptures, and is based on the scripture in the Law (Torah) where it says to bind these words between your eyes, and on your hands, etc.

It is satan's mockery of the tefillin, and God Himself will put His Mark, quite possibly a Shin, on the foreheads of His believers. Some have interpreted this as viewing the forehead as the mind, and the hand as the actions of your life, which I do believe is valid in terms of a eisegesis level of interpretation, but that does not negate the very real possibility of the actual event of a chip being the mark of the beast, literally.

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

Compliance with Untied Nations Resolution 1373 - bump . . .

[B.R. Burton]

Is botox related to botulism? I was thinking, and it would be extremely easy to include a viral microbe, like a Ebola, in such thing, etc., and wouldn't need much room at all, I guess.

[christine]

NO, NO, a thousand times NO!!

i'll never submit!!

[Risky Schemer]

"A State shall obtain biometric data for the identification of each individual to whom the State issues a new or renewed driver's license or identification card and shall maintain such data." Just what kind of biometric data "shall" the state obtain?

Fingerprint or thumbprint, which is then digitized and imprinted on the card in code.

Georgia is real familiar with it. And this national I.D. plan supposedly has been in the works for years.

See, ol' Zig Zag Zell Miller, new hero of the right, was reportedly carrying the water for the Clintons when he was governor of the state. So, the story goes, to get Georgia ahead of the curve in compliance with the anticipated national I.D. (in compliance, many thought, due to the wishes of the Clinton administration), he ramrodded the fingerprint I.D. law through.

And though there was a bit of squawking, the deep South Bible Belt Georgians, to the surprise of many, pretty much rolled over for it and took it. And it's still the law. If you want a Georgia driver's license, you give up the print, and on your plastic license and into the database it goes.

[weikel]

I could ask my father hes a cosmetic surgeon( they use very very diluted samples of botox for skin injections).

[weikel]

I hope we haven't given some of the guvment types which monitor this forum any ideas.

[weikel]

As for ebola that would take time to kill someone if they did something like put a tirggerable poison into the chip they would definitely use something that would kill quickly.

[B.R. Burton]

"BOTOX is the trade name of Botulinum toxin Type A, which is a purified toxin, produced by a bacterium called Clostridium botulinum." - The Cosmetic Care and Laser Surgery Center . . .

You're dad's a plastic surgeon? I wanted to be a plastic surgeon once, but now, I'm probably going to be an art teacher. NO TO TEACHER'S UNIONS!

[Richard Kimball]

There was a big stir around 2000, when the digital angel came out. The manufacturer'shad planned to offer it as a subcutaneous implant, but backed off because of the negative publicity. They now put it in watches and other stuff. Their web site is here. It's going to happen eventually. Every time someone proposes it, the outcry gets a little fainter. The marginalization of the Church is almost complete, so I think you'll see it within five years, and mandatory soon after that. People keeping track of their children and monitoring people in ill health first, mandatory for criminals after that, then to high government officials (heck, they may have them already), military, government employees, government contractors, finally replacing the social security card.

[B.R. Burton]

brilliant analysis.

[weikel]

Don't go into medicine my father says except maybe vetinary medicine. Everything except cosmetic surgery is pretty socialized the various medical organizations make it hard for independent operators( they act like medevil guilds they don't like anyone operating outside of big hospitals) and there has been an influx of other doctors into cosmetic surgery because thats the only kind not socialized( the reason its not socialized is because the government is not going to subsidize nose and boobjobs not yet anyway). The influx into cosmetic surgery increases the competition levels a lot and makes it hard to get business.

[B.R. Burton]

I agree with everything you said. I actually wrote digital angel, and warned them to not make the sub-cutaneous chip, warning of prophetic consequences. I probably sounded like a raving fanatic with Jerusalem syndrome to non-believer's ears, but I'm sure they got alot of similar responses.

[weikel]

Your pretty logical for a fundi.

[B.R. Burton]

Yes, I agree. the health industry has been ravaged by liberalism, which probably got its way due to real concerns about people who are poor, without health coverage, which should be taken care of in the private sector, not the government.