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Stock Market in Landmark Plunge<P>
self | 06-21-2002 | self

Posted on 06/21/2002 1:00:28 PM PDT by Tuco-bad

The S&P experienced its worst 17-week period ever (based on number of up/down S&P weeks), with the S&P down 14 of the past 17 weeks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: stockmarket
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To: Tuco-bad
The economy would be doing good if the government wasn't spending half of it. The best economy is near zero government. It's always the socialists to blame for recessions.
121 posted on 06/21/2002 6:42:29 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: edbarry
You mention the Mideast mess--it was more peaceful when Clinton kept the two sides talking, even when that treacherous Arafat was not negotiating in good faith. Bush would be smart to hire Clinton as a Mideast negotiator--let's face it, that's something he was good at.

Uhhhh, maybe your calendar is a little off. The latest violence in Israel STARTED during the wonderful Clinton administration ... September 29, 2000 to be exact. Now, unless you're going to claim that the Palestinians started Intifada II in anticipation of Bush coming into office in 2001, you better take back this "fact".

I guess the FACT that the 9-11 plot was hatched and some of the participants infiltrated this country during your beloved Clinton administration also slipped through your fact-filter.

Clinton's policies and actions were obviously ineffectual, as evidenced by the 9-11 attacks and the Intifada II.

122 posted on 06/21/2002 6:43:24 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: edbarry
They were not plotting to bring down the economy THEN - of course not - because they wanted to stay in power!!!!

But their shot at Microsoft (lawsuits) started the bubble implosion - and the Clinton false bubble is now having to be handled by President Bush's team....while the Clintonistas and their friends in Communist China and in the ARab terrorist states are doing everything possible to keep the stock market - and our econmy - in the doldrums! Clinton deserves ZERO credit for the 90's false economy. He was and is a thief of the highest order - enriching his insider trading friends - like McCauliffe at Global Crossings - while helping build a false euphoria by turning their backs to corporate malfesance - in fact encouraging it!

Keep talking? To Arafat - the chief terrorist in Israel?

President Bush has continued to talk. The latest infifada started in the fall of 2000....under Clinton. The Clinton crime family were using bribery to keep our enemies "incheck". Along with false promises.

If you continue to praise Bill Clinton, you will go the way of other Clinton lovers who have mistakenly ventured in here. We here that claptrap from the presstitutes every day - we do not have to tolerate it here!

123 posted on 06/21/2002 9:38:16 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: discostu
Remember Burton Malkiel writing in the WSJ? A lot of people saw this coming. I remember arguing with my father-in-law in the mid-90's that since the barriers to entry were so low, margins in IT would approach pennies on the dollar. He disagreed, put A LOT of money in a software training company, and lost it all. Went to work for a second one. Down they went.

These boom-bust cycles are systemic to our inflationary economy. As one commentator has said, we no longer practice capitalism; we practice debtism.

Taxes are still way too high and the government has embarked on a dangerous spending spree. With an aging population and depleted capital stock, our creditors are seriously beginning to be skeptical of our ability to pay our public and private debt. There is more to come.

124 posted on 06/22/2002 6:17:42 AM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: patriot_wes
"Oh for those days indeed . . . because they were brought to us by Reaganomics! During the Reagan years the stock market averaged 11% per year appreciation, good but not great. BTW - If you are interested - I am a lesbian, trapped in a man's body."

I'm sure no one's interested....
It's always the same with you gays...no matter how in·noc·u·ous the discussion, it has to end up being about sex....argh!

125 posted on 06/22/2002 8:51:50 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: SteamshipTime
Well tech isn't necessarily a bad investment, the big problem was that so many people thought that once something had a computer chip the rules suddenly changed, but the rules don't change. The training company is a classic example, there's plenty of money to be made in training people in software IF you're tied to one of the big software manufacturer and they've granted you the ability to certify people in the use their stuff. If your company can't grant recognized certificates forget it, then you have to make sure your local market isn't flooded. Just like if you opened a welding school, only not as messy.

The truth of the new economy is that there never was one. The same basic rules have applied for centuries and they aren't going away any time soon.
126 posted on 06/22/2002 9:04:27 AM PDT by discostu
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To: patriot_wes
I am a lesbian, trapped in a man's body." - Tuco-bad

I'm sure no one's interested....
It's always the same with you gays...no matter how in·noc·u·ous the discussion, it has to end up being about sex....argh! - patriot_wes

Methinks you didn't get my joke.

127 posted on 06/22/2002 11:17:05 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Lazamataz
I'm just gonna keep dollar cost averaging.

You are going to continue to lose your shirt and possibly your pants too.

Put your money into short term FED bonds until stock P/E ratios are between 7 and 14. Otherwise, It'll take 15 or so years for you to just make up your losses let alone start making money.

128 posted on 06/23/2002 9:28:26 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Otherwise, It'll take 15 or so years for you to just make up your losses let alone start making money.

I've got 15 years.

DollarCostAverageMan... here to right all wrongs... fighting for Truth, Justice and the Murrican way....

129 posted on 06/23/2002 9:30:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: patriot_wes
It's always the same with you gays...no matter how in·noc·u·ous the discussion, it has to end up being about sex....argh!

You said sex... huhhhuhhuhuhuuhhuhuhuhh hehehheheheheheh

130 posted on 06/23/2002 9:31:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Tuco-Bad is Back?!???

Woo Hoo!!!

I *love* reading his stuff... I mean, as a conservative surrounded by mean-spirited liberals I can relate to the guy... and like him, I deftly use wit and humor to successfully rattle the oposition...

131 posted on 06/23/2002 9:33:30 AM PDT by NapaCA
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To: All
I'd suggest that you move your money into Fed Short Term Bonds to protect your capital until after the following had occurred and returned to normal:

1.) The Stock Market Bubble is Washed Away: this will be the case when the DOW is around 5000, NASDAQ around 500 to 700, and the S&P500 around 300 or so. P/E ratios should be in the 7 to 14 range on your stock purchases. Dividends will then be back in style.

2.) Bond market crisis: Stay away from corporate bonds, state and local government bonds. There are going to be a lot of bankruptcies, and bonds will be hit hard in rating downgrades.

3.) Interest Rate Spike: Interest rates may spike due to government need to retain foreign investor in Fed bonds, and the general risky lending environment banks will encounter in corporate and consumer loans. Stay away from long-term bonds; they will drop in value when rates go up.

4.) Bank Failures: Some banks may fail especially those that issue credit cards. Use FDIC insured accounts only.

We are facing a major financial crisis – focus on preserving your money through the crisis not growing it. Money can be made in all of these phases, but not by the average investor.

The remainder of this post is from the Schaeffers Research site:

This is the beginning of the next leg lower in this bear market, and individual investors who are still influenced by the following widely held conventions will suffer in this coming decline.

1. We are in a developing bull market.
2. Buy and hold for the long haul is the best way to invest in stocks.
3. Blue chips will hold up in the market decline.
4. Small and mid-caps are the safe place to invest currently.
5. Stocks trading under $10 (particularly technology stocks) are cheap, and can't get any cheaper.

Please open your eyes and take some action to protect yourself and your families. This is your money, you have worked hard for it, and deserve to keep it. I am not trying to incite a panic, but I am hoping this will snap people out of the coma that seems to have gripped beaten up investors.

132 posted on 06/23/2002 12:26:02 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Lazamataz
disclaimer: Otherwise, It'll take 15 or so years for you to just make up your losses let alone start making money.

Lazamataz: I've got 15 years.

Oh good, you'll regain your investment principal but you won't make any money on it.

You must be a Motley Fool.

133 posted on 06/23/2002 12:30:49 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Oh good, you'll regain your investment principal but you won't make any money on it.

I love people who have absolute certain foreknowledge of the events yet to transpire.

What am I having for lunch tomorrow? The company menu is not up yet.

134 posted on 06/23/2002 12:45:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Ground turkey?
135 posted on 06/23/2002 12:58:23 PM PDT by technochick99
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To: technochick99
That's dinner, silly! :o)
136 posted on 06/23/2002 12:59:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: disclaimer
You are going to continue to lose your shirt and possibly your pants too.

Besides, I can't lose what I never have on.

137 posted on 06/23/2002 1:00:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Tuco-bad
"Besides I'm the most consevative person in the FReeRepublic. "

And Laz is a closet Vegan.

138 posted on 06/24/2002 2:45:46 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: d4now
Only if the dollar doesn't go any lower.

Then buy stock in companies that do more business overseas. Where did you come up with that idea?

139 posted on 06/24/2002 2:49:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Then buy stock in companies that do more business overseas

Good idea! Name a few and we'll look at their charts over the last few months.

140 posted on 06/24/2002 4:06:30 PM PDT by d4now
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