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To: Kevin Curry
I feel bad for all those people who had miserable school experiences. I loved school and had a great time there. Most of the fun I had would be unavailable in a home schooling situation and my parents would have been totally unable to school us at home. While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession. Not that anyone pushing this agenda understands why or cares.

Spelling bee successes do not mean an excellent education. This year's contest did not see great success by the homeschoolers in the finals. Not sure about the various state contests. Since most "homeschooling" of difficult subjects is farmed out perhaps we should call it "non-traditionally structured schooling" for accuracy.

47 posted on 06/19/2002 10:44:45 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
How about calling it "ANYTHING BUT "public skoolen"?
49 posted on 06/19/2002 10:48:42 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I had a great time in high school too. I always said my kids would go to my alma mater. No longer. It's not the same place. I went there before metal detectors at all entrances, campus police, gangs, etc. A friend of mine felt exactly about the school as I did and wanted to go back and teach there. She now works as a security guard and feels safer. She was assaulted several times and had to quit.
50 posted on 06/19/2002 10:48:59 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: justshutupandtakeit
So because you had fun at school and your parents were incapable of instructing you, no one should homeschool? Looks like you got what you paid for with that education.
51 posted on 06/19/2002 10:49:48 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: justshutupandtakeit
While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary

Umm, sure. A small thing called EDUCATION, and not indoctrination brought to you by your friendly neighborhood school.

Not that anyone pushing this agenda understands why or cares.

Our agenda is to have the FREEDOM to teach our children. Got a problem with that?

Spelling bee successes do not mean an excellent education.

Would higher SAT scores define that for you?

56 posted on 06/19/2002 11:09:19 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: justshutupandtakeit
and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession.

Care to explain how THAT would happen?

/john

61 posted on 06/19/2002 11:17:32 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: justshutupandtakeit
While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession.

On the contrary. The dumbed down public school kids have little to offer for inovation and economic strength. They'll be social leeches or worker bees.
The better educated will become the new rulers some day. Being able to read and comprehend can do wonders for a political canidate or corporate leader!

90 posted on 06/19/2002 12:13:38 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Most of the fun I had would be unavailable in a home schooling situation and my parents would have been totally unable to school us at home. While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession. Not that anyone pushing this agenda understands why or cares.

Every family has to make this decision on their own, and no one should be pressured by any "agenda," whether it's the NEA's, or someone who says that homeschooling is the *only* way to do it (it's not.)

I'm not so sure about the "massive recession" part. Certainly the majority of homeschooling families have one parent at home full-time (usually, but not always the mother.) Many families have not structured themselves to live on one income. That limits the numbers of homeschoolers right there.

If more married mothers stayed home with their children, homeschooling numbers would rise. As more people homeschool in a given city, it gets more fun and easier for everyone, because the number of clubs, co-ops, private sports teams, orchestras etc. increases.

Even so, given that we are in a recession now anyway, and that most families have two working parents, I don't see homeschooling becoming a "universal" solution to the school question anytime soon. But people should be free to choose whether to do it or not based on their own individual circumstances.

96 posted on 06/19/2002 12:31:29 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I feel bad for all those people who had miserable school experiences. I loved school and had a great time there.

The system is set up to reward those who get with the program. There are carrots as well as sticks.

The system is sheer hell, however, for those who can not or will not fit in, comply, knuckle under.

107 posted on 06/19/2002 1:04:13 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: justshutupandtakeit
While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession.

I would think just the opposite. We spend over $300 billion a year on government K-12 schools. If parents homeschool, that money merely flows into the economy and is put to, in my opinion, a more productive use.

Take it to the extreme: Parents do not care for their children at all. Everyone pays taxes to the state to raise their children. Is that good for the economy? Of course not. It is better for the economy if citizens do for themselves what they can.

139 posted on 06/19/2002 2:18:00 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The State has not right to force payment to and inclusion in Government Education. It is a fundlemental right of parents to educate their Kids any way they chose.

"The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense." — Karl Marx (1848)

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." — Thomas Jefferson (1777)

"We are opposed to state interference with parental rights and rights of conscience in the education of children." — Democrat National Platform (1892)

140 posted on 06/19/2002 2:18:16 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Spelling bee successes do not mean an excellent education. This year's contest did not see great success by the homeschoolers in the finals. Not sure about the various state contests. Since most "homeschooling" of difficult subjects is farmed out perhaps we should call it "non-traditionally structured schooling" for accuracy.

Considering that non government schooled kids have taken first several times or placed in the last 10 years far, far out of proportion to their numbers is quite extraordinary. Don't expect _too_ much press on that little factoid.

The fact is, they don't want any competition. The standard, dumbed down feeble response many parents have is "They don't get socialized."; which I presume to mean the kids are not exposed to mind numbing racism, drugs, homosexuality, etc. (by the faculty) and various leftist pet causes ad nauseum.

170 posted on 06/19/2002 3:32:33 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I suspect that you would agree with me and other people concerned about public education that a functional illiterate is not prepared to operate in a modern, civilized, environment.

How do you address the fact that most school drop-outs are primarily functional illiterates? The national graduation rates is just over 70%. (i.e. 30% drop-out rate.) In many of the poorer schools the drop-out rate is 70%. Please explain why sending our children to these centers of incompetence is not a great error.

Godspeed, The Dilg

179 posted on 06/19/2002 5:35:01 PM PDT by thedilg
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