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Bar owners may get jail time for allowing smoking
The Record.com ^ | June 18, 2002 | JEFF OUTHIT

Posted on 06/18/2002 12:12:08 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: freeeee
They have pubs for everyone there....even family pubs. And of course dogs are allowed. Last time I saw the stats, U.K. pet owners spend more per capita than any other pet owners!
41 posted on 06/18/2002 12:48:35 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Lorenb420
They are $23 a carton in Marion County Florida. $9 is cheep
42 posted on 06/18/2002 12:48:42 PM PDT by lucky7
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To: SheLion
"What we want is compliance.

HAIL HITLER! The politically correct though oppressors are knocking at the door. You have no free will!

43 posted on 06/18/2002 12:48:45 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: captain11
There are bars in the L.A. area that allow smoking and they are NOT owner-operated. What these dumb laws have created is a nice way for cops and politicians to make some easy money on the sly.
44 posted on 06/18/2002 12:49:58 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: SheLion
The jail threat is part of a proposed enforcement crackdown aimed at 28 stubborn establishments.

Those who will not obey the liberal oppressors. They have not been successfully mind controled to remain in the new United Socialist States of America, the land of the thought collective.

45 posted on 06/18/2002 12:51:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: SheLion
I don't think you will ever see it gentle and peaceful, ned!

Well, actually it's already pretty gentle and peaceful for me most of the time.

What are you going to do with us die hard Conservatives who are fighting for our rights? Answer me that one.

When our time has come, they will dispose of you and me just like they've disposed of all who have come before us. What do you suppose became of all the poodle skirts?

What are you going to do with we Americans who refuse to go "down under" just because the nazi few say it's going to happen? Please answer me on this.

Everyone should stick up for their rights, including those who smoke tobacco. I don't like to see the Government's heavy-handed tactics any more than you do. I'm on your side in that regard. However, it does seem like most in society have decreed a death sentence for tobacco smoking.

46 posted on 06/18/2002 12:52:05 PM PDT by ned
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To: SheLion
If I had my way

Smoking Bar-Nonsmokers not allowed, without signing damage waiver.

Smokin' Airlines: Attention all customers, non-smokers not allowed on these flights. Ticket policy clearly states all Middle Easterners subject to minute search, no exceptions, acceptance of ticket creates automatic acceptance of this policy. All pilots armed, all flight attendants armed.

I'd be willing to bet that both ventures would be money makers.

47 posted on 06/18/2002 12:53:20 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: SheLion
"Am I my brothers keeper?"

When did Bar Keeps become "enforcement agents"?

For that matter, when did cops, who used to be called "Peace Officers" become "Enforcement Agents"?

Does an "Enforcement Agent" belong in "America", or in some dictatorship someplace?

48 posted on 06/18/2002 12:53:26 PM PDT by RISU
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To: SheLion
"What we want is compliance. We don't want anybody to go to jail."

What a joke !! What they REALLY want is for everyone to become serfs and lick the boots of tyranny. Before you know it these same serfs will be on their knees begging the government for food.

49 posted on 06/18/2002 12:54:28 PM PDT by unixfox
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To: steve50
Have these idiots ever thought of just hanging a sign on the front door, designating the bar as either smoking permitted or non smoking, and letting the consumer make his choice which he wishes to support.

What? You think this country was built on free market economics? Only government knows what's best for us.

50 posted on 06/18/2002 12:54:32 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: RISU
For that matter, when did cops, who used to be called "Peace Officers" become "Enforcement Agents"?

Just before the "Patriot Act" was passed, I think.

51 posted on 06/18/2002 12:55:20 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: captain11
Sounds like they might fruitfully adopt the private club concept, wherein an establishment is no longer public and imposes a nominal annual membership fee (e.g. $5 US, which can be discounted from an initial cover charge, where applicable). The private clubs can allow smoking or not.

You have a great idea there!

52 posted on 06/18/2002 12:56:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Bella_Bru
And whose decision will it be for us to transition?? Certainly not the government's, but some folks seem to be pushing hard for that.

I don't think that the Government can effectively stop people from smoking. I just think that it's going to be harder for the tobacco industry to get new recruits in the future. I really don't know how I would go about trying to talk a nonsmoker into becoming a smoker. Seems like a tough sell to me.

53 posted on 06/18/2002 12:57:24 PM PDT by ned
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To: SheLion
"What we are doing is stepping up the process basically to the maximum," said Brian Hatton, the region's director of environmental health.

If they don't comply we're gonna SHOOT 'em. THAT sounds like the maximum they're after to me.

54 posted on 06/18/2002 12:57:34 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Bella_Bru
Bella! I'm with YOU!

I smoke before and after EVERYthing! LOL!

55 posted on 06/18/2002 12:57:42 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I'd be willing to bet that both ventures would be money makers.

I'd fly that airline every time, even though I don't smoke. Box-cutter this, Achmed.

56 posted on 06/18/2002 12:57:44 PM PDT by captain11
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To: lucky7
That's $9 MORE a carton, not $9 a carton.
57 posted on 06/18/2002 12:59:25 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: SheLion
they should just smoke pot - that's ok
58 posted on 06/18/2002 1:00:47 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: captain11
I'd fly that airline every time, even though I don't smoke. Box-cutter this, Achmed

I knew I should have a policy allowing non-smokers who merely had the simple desire to fly safely. Amazing how easy it could be, isn't it.

59 posted on 06/18/2002 1:01:53 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: concerned about politics
You have a great idea there!

Not original with me, but it works. Such clubs exist in numerous locales where club members enjoy staying out later than the public bedtime edict would allow.

60 posted on 06/18/2002 1:03:20 PM PDT by captain11
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