Bar owners may get jail time for allowing smoking

The Record.com ^ | June 18, 2002 | JEFF OUTHIT

[freeeee]

It's the kind of crap you expect to run into in socialist Europe

Even the Europeans smoke a lot, and for the most part, anywhere they like.

A little travel will open your eyes to just how 'free' we really are.

[Snowyman]

These are municipal politicians. I once knew one that had an original idea. He fainted!

[SheLion]

Looks like bars will be closing up quickly in the Waterloo Region.

Too sad. Life's work down the drain. It makes me sick.

[tomakaze]

RE:The jail threat is part of a proposed enforcement crackdown aimed at 28 stubborn establishments.
 
i.e. those owners who wont bend their knees to this absurdity.

[ned]

ned, why do you say this?!

I just think that tobacco smoking is going to go the way of poodle skirts. But smokers are good and decent folks and I would like to see the transition from smoking be as gentle and as peaceful as possible.

[Gabz]

I just returned from a meeting with a bar owner over the Delaware smoking ban -

They have a banner hanging on the outside of the establishment that states they are smoking in there now and will be come november (when it goes into effect)

I'm going back there tomorrow with the didgital camera to take a picture and post it all over the internet.

Now I'm off to talk with another owner (sheesh, people are going to start thinking I'm some kind of barfly or something!!!)

[tomkat]

Gawd, sometimes I just flat hate people

hell, i hate nazi bastards like that all the time.

the south was right.

too bad lincoln didn't get capped in '61.

[captain11]

Have these idiots ever thought of just hanging a sign on the front door, designating the bar as either smoking permitted or non smoking, and letting the consumer make his choice which he wishes to support.

Sounds like they might fruitfully adopt the private club concept, wherein an establishment is no longer public and imposes a nominal annual membership fee (e.g. $5 US, which can be discounted from an initial cover charge, where applicable). The private clubs can allow smoking or not. Membership rules for smoking clubs can specify clearly that patrons must respect the smoking rights of other patrons, and waive claims to damages and other infringements on such rights. If customers choose to become members of non-smoking clubs, or choose to patronize public establishments, that is their prerogative.

[Bella_Bru]

Exactly. My summer in England taught me that. Fatty foods, smokers, and a pub on every corner. A nanny-statists worst nightmare.

[SheLion]

I would like to see the transition from smoking be as gentle and as peaceful as possible.

I don't think you will ever see it gentle and peaceful, ned!

What are you going to do with us die hard Conservatives who are fighting for our rights? Answer me that one.

What are you going to do with we Americans who refuse to go "down under" just because the nazi few say it's going to happen? Please answer me on this.

[Bella_Bru]

SheLion, I used to post this every week in the Smoker's Lounge:

Smoker's Creed

I smoke because I like to smoke.
I smoke because I want to smoke.
Smoking pleases me.
My life is better because I smoke.
I accept responsibility for all of my actions.
I want the freedom to choose to smoke.
I can choose how to make myself happy.
I own myself.
Smoking is my choice.

[SheLion]

Good luck, Gabz!

Your going to wear yourself out! I'm proud of you!!!

[Bella_Bru]

I would like to see the transition from smoking be as gentle and as peaceful as possible.

And whose decision will it be for us to transition?? Certainly not the government's, but some folks seem to be pushing hard for that.

[SheLion]

I love that! I saved it for myself.

Thank you SO much, Bella!

[Bella_Bru]

Have these idiots ever thought of just hanging a sign on the front door, designating the bar as either smoking permitted or non smoking, and letting the consumer make his choice which he wishes to support.

ROFLMAO! You just tied two ideas together that the socialists and nico nazis hate. Capitalism and freedom.

[freeeee]

I was in an English pub when a German Shepherd (and his owner) came in for a pint.

The dog poked his nose over the bar, politely barked, and got served two icecubes.

The weenies around here would suffer a panick attack if they ever saw such a thing.

[captain11]

It's the kind of crap you expect to run into in socialist Europe or Kalifornia.

To echo freeee's reply to you, they smoke like chimneys in many Euro countries. Also, Kalifornia is at least two states. There is the ultra-PC Bay Area + Hollyweird axis, and then there's the rest of the state. FR is based in the rest of the state.

[Bella_Bru]

I really despise the morons that imply smokers smoke out of need and not desire. There is nothing I like better after a hearty meal than a strong cup of coffee and a nice smoke. The only time I 'need' a smoke is to blow it in the face of the smug truth.com-esque nico nazis.

[BARGE]

Time to "Lock and load".

[lodwick]

bttt