Posted on 06/16/2002 12:55:18 AM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:06:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
June 16, 2002 -- The Jewish Defense Group - which says it wants to protect its neighborhood even as critics call them vigilantes looking to inflame tensions - will hit the streets today with its controversial armed patrols.
Leaders of the group last week raised the hackles of cops and other city leaders by vowing to patrol Jewish neighborhoods such as Borough Park and Flatbush.
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This is exactly the problem. Definitions fail because definitions are of the realm of the physical world. One can say a BMW is better than a Yugo, by defintion. However, when comparing each other as cars, we end up into dire eugenic straits and confining ideologies.
I do not deny that there are Jews with delusions of grandeur nor Christians that are confused. Worse, there is a brand of leftist humanists who jump over the challenge argument of eugenism and declare all humans are good and equal - understated in sinlessness - and what they do is due to some physical phenomena going on in brain functions. But this brings us back to eugenism or a form of eugenism affected by the environement and not innate as the Nazies claimed.
So what is the truth? The truth is none are sinless, and hence any man or institution of man is to submit to a balance of jurisdictions. Civil disobedience is a way to assert jurisdiction and to challenge those against the existence of such rightful jurisdiction. The sinfulness of jurisdiction does not forbid its existence, but its duty to understand its own sinfulness and take appropriate steps in not overstepping other people's boundaries and jurisdictions.
Let us face it, Jews and Christians do not defer on the definition of G_d since both group are forbiden from defining G_d or casting demons in His name. Nor do they defer on sacrifice since both religions give to G_d through economic sacrifices and prayers.
Jews and Christian defer in how jurisdiction of G_d is distributed from heaven. Is it man directly responsible to G_d's jurisdiction as in the Garden of Eden? Or is it man responsible to a J_sus-G_d/Son-Father ideal jurisdiction relationship? Hence Christians are more practical in relating to each other accross the world, Jews are more practical when it comes to standing for oneself, and either works are accomplished by men and institutions equal in sinfulness.
A confederation of both meta-jurisdictional approaches is called for, confederation that was not understood, nor by Christians, nor by Jews, when J_sus went on the cross. When J_sus said give unto G_d what is G_d's and unto Caesar what is Caesar's, Christians interpreted it as the separation of church and state, both relating. Jews were content to interprete it as a vindication of standing for yourself in relationship to G_d. While the whole deal is about relating to the enemy in hopes the enemy will learn about relationship, and that this relationship provides the enemy with the good sense to change its mind and let others stand up for themselves.
Many Jews have asserted that Christianity has contributed to the coming of Messiah, despite its proselytist arrogance toward Jews as opposed to orientating this proselytism toward Caesar as J_sus specificly instructed. Jews do not look down on Christians, and I hope Christians can understand that their needed relationship to Jews does not mean they are to feel inferior.
Every group has its fringe. We just hear about the Christian fringe. And we hear about Christian fringe groups all the time. In fact, the media often tries to portray all Christians as out of the mainstream. That is the reason I posted the JDL link. Here is another even worse example.
Imagine the frustration when it is a Jew leading this rebuilding, G_d forbid we introduced G_d that way into American politics! (sarcasm)
It is those alive today living in Israel who committed crimes in the Soviet Block which upsets the survivors and the families of those killed. The honoring of some members of Stalin's entourage doesn't sit well either. Add in the denial by others that anything bad happened to Christians in Poland and the Baltic states in 1939-40 and you get some real resentment brewing.
We are at war against Islamism by the way. Either you are for or against this war.
Oh, worse example? These people have the jurisdictional right to post their views about Christmas. This is not extremist, this is within their jurisdictions. If they have an argument about the definitional nature of Christmas and G_d being counter to the "Under God" principle of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, then I think you make a very good reason for their fears.
Beats me. Probably the same leg someone would have who prohibited a faith from discouraging converts or outlawed religions based on bloodlines.
I have seen and heard multiple reports of American MUslims in prisons who cheered and celebrated after learning of 9/11 events. That says it all to me, these were American citizens. May the rot in hell, the sooner the better.
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