'VIGILANTE' JEWS WILL SET FORTH A BATTLE PLAN

New York Post ^ | 6/16/02 | PHILIP MESSING

[kattracks]

June 16, 2002 -- The Jewish Defense Group - which says it wants to protect its neighborhood even as critics call them vigilantes looking to inflame tensions - will hit the streets today with its controversial armed patrols.

Leaders of the group last week raised the hackles of cops and other city leaders by vowing to patrol Jewish neighborhoods such as Borough Park and Flatbush.

[RCW2001]

Excellent! I anxiously await the first 'casualty' of this vigilantism... That would be most 'entertaining', indeed.

[archy]

How can there be ANY argument against Americans arming themselves to defend their wives and children from people WHOSE RELIGION DEMANDS THAT THEY KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS?

I don't know. Every argument made by the antis here has no place on this thread. The fact is that when the government cannot protect the populace, the citizens have a right to arm themselves. I can't believe there are freepers who won't support that.

The idea is not exactly a new one:

There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborn in our hearts; a law which comes to us not by training or custom or reading; a law which has come to us not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies, any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right.

--Marcus Tulius Cicero, 106-53 BC

[archy]

Then why was the USSR so quick to recognize the state of Israel?Why did some of the first arms shipments to the state of Israel come from the Soviet block(Czechoslovakia)?

As anyone who has a few minutes of access to a free pre ss and a public library (that leaves you out) knows, TO SCREW WITH THE BRITISH AND THE US AND PLAY WITH THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE MIDEAST.

And, of course, to ensure that the direction in which the new Jewish state would be led would be guided by Israeli Socialist David Ben-Gurion, with whom the Soviets rightfully assumed they could likely strike certain political bargains, just as B-G had previously collaborated with the British by handing them information on other Jews who were his political adversaries, sending them to the British hangman.

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[archy]

No, Hitler was not a Christian, he wanted a return to an old Aryan ancient religion, of which name I can not think of right now. Wait, was it Odinism or something like that? I should be able to find that.

Hitler was raised as a Catholic, as was his mother, Klara, buried in the cemetery at Leonding two days before Christmas. Although He had been an alter boy in his youth, but it was probably his mother's death that took all joy of Christmas and Christianity from him, in 1907.

It was Hitler's compatriot Heinrich Himmler, fascinated by the old Norse religion of Asatruism and Germanic-Norse mythology, who directed the Fuhrer's interests in that direction.

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[Cachelot]

Oh crap. There is no society that guarantees everyone who lives in it is vile.

Wanna bet? Anyway, I'd say that the PA society, the Saudi society and the Egyptian society, to pick a few, guarantee that MOST of their citizens are vile. There is no society, on the other hand, in which anyone at all except possibly for toddlers are innocent.

Now of course the Jews in Brooklyn would be as likely to be attacked by American nazis as by Arab nazi jihadists. These two groups have neatly aligned with each other and are now collaborating. In both cases I hope they run into someone carrying a good double who proceeds to ram both barrels up their a$$ and pull both triggers.

[archy]

Okey. According to Webster's dictionary and Eerdmans' Handbook to The World's Religions, Odin was the chief god in Germanic mythology. He was a warrior god. I will have to look further though to confirm Hitler's fascination with Odinism. I had read about it though, and one of the History Channel's many shows dealing with Hitler was about that.

Here's a starting place for you. But it should be noted that the Spear of Longinus was not a Odinist or Asatruist relic, but a Christian one. Then there's Hitler's connection to Allistair Crowley....

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[Aleksandar Vojvoda]

Btw - you ran like a dog before you could give a clear answer: Are you a muslim Serb??? Bonus question: doesn't that make you feel like traitor?

All of the above,HAHAHAHAHAH!-and "no" for the second ?

[dennisw]

Uh...... Yes. 30,000 compared to millions. Hopefully most of those killed where Poles who helped out the German Final Solution

You keep repeating that 30,000 figure when you know it is only part of the death toll. 

Now I know you are an absolute nutter. You, Larryliar, are the one who first cited the 30,000 figure. Now try again Lied and see how many deaths you can pin on Berman. Go ahead Lied and please try to use some logic. Berman was post WW2. Not before or during WW2. Are you working with the same faulty logic David Irving does? He lost his house the other day due to his idiotic lawsuit.

Collaborators in the 1939-1940 period are responsible for 1.5 million Christians being put into cattle cars and shipped to the gulags of Siberia.

Sorry Lied but this has naught to do with Berman and the 30,000 deaths you claim he is responsible for post WW2. Hopefully most of them Polish Nazi collaborators. Maybe you can shed some light on this.

[Aleksandar Vojvoda]

Yehuda,are you answering for "AppyPappy" now?Then let me put the thread into context.

"AppyPappy" said If the Jews ran the Soviet Union, they wouldn't have supported the Arabs who were killing the Jews.

To which I said, Then why was the USSR so quick to recognize the state of Israel?Why did some of the first arms shipments to the state of Israel come from the Soviet block(Czechoslovakia)?

To which you interceded with: As anyone who has a few minutes of access to a free press and a public library (that leaves you out) knows, TO SCREW WITH THE BRITISH AND THE US AND PLAY WITH THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE MIDEAST.

It sounds as if you and "AppyPappy" have a dispute as to the policy of the USSR,vis-a-vis Israel immediately post-WWII.

Yehuda,you also stated

And because the Czechs needed the cash and had decent airfields to ship from.

What was the route of these alleged(by you) flights from Czechoslovakia to Israel.It would have required overflights of other Soviet Bloc countries and/or Yugoslavia?

[Aleksandar Vojvoda]

Are you a muslim Serb??? Bonus question: doesn't that make you feel like traitor?

This is so amusing to me that I will answer your question hypothetically.
"Not any more than Mehmed Pasha Sokolli."

[Hoosier Patriot]

Hello! It's good to "see" you again. Thank's much for the kind words.

If, God willing, I ever find myself in your beautiful neck of the woods, I promise to stop by for a haircut whether I need one or not! {;-)

[Triple]

"Anyone attempting to patrol the streets armed with a weapon will be arrested."

I guess sitting in dunkin'donuts is not 'patrolling the streets.'

[Cachelot]

This is so amusing to me that I will answer your question hypothetically.

That is the second time you have sort of half-wittedly tried to squirm out of an answer, you know ;).

[Hoosier Patriot]

However the history of gun control in America has been one of hatred, and the fear it can engender in the population,...

Good Lord, you're spot on correct. A certain amount of hatred, in conjunction with fear of the unknown, has resulted in exactly the examples you've stated. And there's absolutely no reason to think that history won't repeat itself again, or that what we are witnessing here is somehow unrelated. In pausing to think about it, it gives one an eerie feeling.

[Aleksandar Vojvoda]

That is the second time you have sort of half-wittedly tried to squirm out of an answer, you know ;).

Well,what else can I do when you put 90 degree 'smiley faces" at the end of your post?

Of course,I could mirror your question,something like"Are you an(fill in the blank) -American?"Bonus question:doesn't that make you feel like a Pollard?"

Are you a muslim Serb??? Bonus question: doesn't that make you feel like traitor?

[Cachelot]

Well,what else can I do when you put 90 degree 'smiley faces" at the end of your post?

Ah, you're out of answers - even weaselly ones. Too bad some real Serb never happened upon you and your KLA compadres.

[Michael2001]

This thread has everything to do the second ammendment in the US in 2002, and nothing to do with supposed Jewish Communists in Poland over 50 years ago.

I understand this is your pet issue (and that's fine, we all have them) but I don't understand why you insist on inserting your Jewish Communist stuff into every thread. Start a thread, start a thousand threads on this topic, but realize that it's place is not here, or in the thousand other threads you've brought it on to.