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Diocese of Cleveland Partakes in Gay Pride Parade [Then heads to the gay bars]
http://www.geocities.com/thezup/journal15.html ^ | June 15, 2001 | Zup

Posted on 06/15/2002 12:11:22 PM PDT by Diago

This past weekend was the Cleveland Gay Pride parade and festival. This was my first time attending, having only been to Seattle's previously, during my trip to the West Coast last summer. I was a bit nervous about the idea of marching in the parade, even if it was with the Gay and Lesbian Catholic Ministry, so I opted to help watch our table at the festival during the parade and snap some pictures of the group at the end of the route.

Our table was one of the best out there, IMHO, with a lot of literature and resources available. I minded the table with Bruce, another member of the group, while everyone else was marching. Surprisingly, we had a lot of visitors from early on, and we continued to talk to a lot of people throughout the day. We had a good conversation with a high school age guy and his mother. He is thinking of entering the priesthood, so we directed him to the priest with whom I talked last year about coming out to my parents. A lot of people were surprised to see our ministry, especially with official sponsorship from the Diocese of Cleveland. I hope that maybe our being there will help to bring a few people back to the Church who had left, as well as helping our ministry to grow.

While I was sitting at the table, I told Bruce that I expected to see at least one person from another part of my life that I wouldn't expect to see at Pride. Lo, not five minutes later, this girl that I knew somewhat during high school goes walking by. I caught her attention and we talked for a few minutes before she went along her way. I also sighted a guy who looked like someone from the distant past, but I was not exactly sure....I never knew him well back then, and he looked to be with his GF at pride, so I didn't think it was worth the effort to approach him only to find out I was likely mistaken.

Since I was at the table, I didn't get to watch the parade, but I got up and took some pictures as they were coming into Voinovich Park. The catholic group had a very nice sized contingent. There were a whole ton of other religious groups as well, making a very strong showing. I was personally very impressed with Cleveland Pride overall. Sure there were the occasional wild ly dressed drag queens and whatnot, but in large part, I think a family atmosphere was maintained. Drinking was confined to a beer garden area, so the rowdiness level was very reasonable. I personally had a number of pleasant conversations, both at the Catholic table and about the festival. I resisted the urge to spend too much, and only bought a few buttons to wear at such events. Towards the end of the day, I got talking to the VP of the Pride committee at random. That must be a very busy job, organizing such an event....he was trying to recruit me to help out with Pride for next year. I'm considering it, but with my time commitments it's probably not very realistic, plus, I don't feel I could do it justice until I am out to my parents....I'd feel a bit hypocritical. He did say that they had somewhat over 10,000 people this year, which is a few thousand more than last year. I'm very happy to see this event growing, as that bodes well for the atmosphere here in Cleveland. I did hear that there were a few sign waving religious protesters along the parade route...maybe 6 or 8. I guess they had their children out there waving signs....instilling them with a bit of hate. Bah, hate sucks.

Oh, did I mention that I am in the same video as a pornstar?! Ha Ha! It's not really as exciting as I make it sound. The Grid nightclub had Matt Rush, one of the newest stars for Falcon Videos as a special guest at Pride. They were taking roaming video at the festival to play later at the club, and as they scanned past the sexy pornstar they continued on to catch my feet at the edge of the view while I was sitting at the Gay and Lesbian Catholic Ministry table. Our table was almost across from The Grid's table, so we got to watch Matt Rush shirtless signing autographs and posing for pictures most of the afternoon. I felt so uncouth sitting there ogling a pornstar and trying to be a respectable representative of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland at the same time (not like I was the only ogler at our table however). I actually went over and got an autographed picture and shook his hand. He looked like he had such an incredibly thin waist, but I think it was actually that his upper body was just so huge... built right in all the right places... Heh....I felt like such a little girl swooning or something....like Mickey when he gets in giggly schoolgirl mode I suspect. The Stonewall Democrats had the booth next to The Grid, and they had some mighty fine shirtless guys sitting at their table too.

After we took down our table at the pride festival, 7 of us from the Catholic group went out to Snickers for dinner, which is the place that Mickey went with Julie and I when he was in town. This time I ate a bit more frugally and didn't break the bank. We had a really good time at dinner talking the evening away. We also had the same waiter that we had last time....the cute one with attitude. It was less crowded this time, so his attitude was a bit more fun and well adjusted.

After dinner myself and Bruce went to The Grid for some continuing party time. Matt Rush was supposed to be performing there at 1 AM, so we were going to stick around for that. It turned out that Bruce isn't much about dancing, so we just sat and talked for a while. Eventually, Brian [Halderman?}, who coordinates a lot of stuff for the ministry, showed up. He and I danced for a while until the show began. I have to admit that he's a good dancer...he was fun in that he wasn't so entranced in himself to forget to smile and talk to me occasionally....some people get like that, which sucks. He also seems to know a good fraction of everyone....I met a few of his friends during the evening. The Matt Rush show wasn't all I was hoping for....it was just a single song, and our view was somewhat blocked by the tall people who were at the very front by the stage. We eventually left and headed over to Twist in Lakewood. I've been meaning to check it out to see if it might be someplace I could take Brian and Matt when they visit. We only stayed a short time as it was approaching 3 AM, so I have not decided if I think they'd like it....guess I'll have to go again......hehe.

I was still so totally hyped up during my drive home, and continued to be very awake for a while after that. The whole Pride experience was once again totally energising for me. I felt exactly the same way last summer in Seattle. When I start to feel very alone in my day to day life, it is nice to have that experience of being surrounded by so many gay people, just enjoying life separated from all the little fears and stressors that that surround us on a daily basis.

It's not that I need to be surrounded by gay people all the time, but still being closeted in my home and work environments does take a toll, I realize. There is an amazing weight lifted when I am in an environment where I can just be myself, like with my friends. But, I still need contact with other gay people as well....It has been over 18 months since I've been in a relationship. I don't know that it's normal to feel this alone, but I really do. I guess that I can see why so many people get into meaningless physical relationships, just so they can feel loved and needed for even a brief time. Ah, but enough of this sad talk.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; catholic; catholiclist; christianlist; cleveland; homosexuals; prolife
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To: Diago
I just sent a message to the Bishop asking for a stop to this practice. I know several authors, but I never asked their faith. I think one man may do an article. You must realize that it is difficult to criticize the Church, especially when our own Pope won't do such.
21 posted on 06/15/2002 1:47:56 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Angelique
You must realize that it is difficult to criticize the Church, especially when our own Pope won't do such.

I agree. It is very difficult. The only thing worse is knowing all this is going on and doing nothing. I have had enough. I have children. I am willing to fight for my Church until all the perverts (and pervert apologists) have been driven out.

22 posted on 06/15/2002 1:57:01 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Siobhan
God Bless you Siobhan. I pray that Bishop Pilla takes your wise words to heart.
23 posted on 06/15/2002 1:59:00 PM PDT by Diago
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To: IronJack
I just wonder (OUT LOUD)if this crap the Catholic religion is being so 'quiet' about has been the blackmail exposed for their QUIETNESS over abortions!

God Knows the Catholic faith thinks that both homosexuality and abortions are sinful?

Is ANYONE making the CONNECTION between HOMOSEXUALITY and ABORTIONS?? in the Catholic faith??

24 posted on 06/15/2002 2:08:11 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Diago
You need to start with the seminaries, which have become hotbeds for homosexuals (no pun intended). Pray for their salvation and deliverance from the spirit of homosexuality. It's such a stronghold. Pray scripturally for them. Find out what the Bible has to say about homosexuality and pray that scripturally. It's only going to be stopped when Christians pray and rebuke this satanic spirit. satan wants to destroy the churches and pastors of all denominations, thus destroying the faith of many who look up to them. Pray for your priests and pastors. They have much coming against them. They're very vulnerable to the attacks of the enemy and we need to cover them with prayer constantly. It's satan who is the enemy, not the priest, bishop, pastor.
25 posted on 06/15/2002 2:10:50 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Siobhan; Diago
What an excellent letter. I should have taken more care now that I have read yours. Let us know if you get a reply.
26 posted on 06/15/2002 2:19:42 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Diago
Thanks. I'll keep praying...
27 posted on 06/15/2002 2:29:52 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333; diago; siobhan; all
Bump!

Why not forward it to foxnews.com, and Bill O, msnbc.com and Alan Keyes and any and all news outlets that have websites - oh, and crisis@ewtn.com. That is what I'm going to do.

28 posted on 06/15/2002 2:35:50 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Diago
I know what we must do, but I did not know how much this would affect me. What hurts the worst is the blind eye the Church is taking when we are the ones who make up the Church. I will remain steadfast.
29 posted on 06/15/2002 2:35:56 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Angelique
I know the feeling,but wrong is wrong and sometimes you have to shout it out as everyone whispers.In this case they just don't care who knows,this must be stopped.The good people of this Diocese have a right to know who represented them and what they did with their donations,and do they want these losers hanging around their sons,in charge of vocations.This is a mockery of the Catholic church.
30 posted on 06/15/2002 2:50:34 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Siobhan
Go, Siobhan!
31 posted on 06/15/2002 2:51:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: Diago; .45MAN
Between this thread and the earlier one that you posted about the gay pride triangle, I am totally deflated spritually.

I have sent the following e-mail to both Bishop Gries and Pilla:

To: Bishop Anthony Pilla
cc: Bishop Roger Gries

Your Excellency,

It is with utmost respect that I implore you, as a Catholic, to please stop any association between the Church and Gay Pride organizations.

The character of our sacred religion has been under vigorous attack. Any association with radical gay groups is only serving to fan the fires the media have started with their relentless sesationalism. Please take a stand and refuse to support in any way the gay and lesbian groups whose only agenda is to destroy the traditional family structure that they despise through ridicule and intimidation.

I love God, the Church and my Catholic religion. It hurts me and countless other devout that the Church is not strong enough to shake off these people who only use her to further their own sinful lifestyle. It makes no sense that these people who practice an immoral and unnatural lifestyle are allowed to partake of the Holy Sacraments, yet people who have opted out of brutal and abusive marriages are denied the same privileges.

It is my hope and fervent prayer that the leaders of our Catholic faith will show strength and stand up to a minority who has made gains in secular society through threats and bullying.

Faithfully Yours,
XXXXXX X. XXXXXXXXXXX
Norcross, GA

32 posted on 06/15/2002 2:51:25 PM PDT by dansangel
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To: dansangel
Great letter! Thank you for posting it. I'm going to write one as well.

It IS really demoralizing sometimes. I'm going to try to get up early tomorrow AM (5:00 Eastern) and watch Padre Pio's canonization tomorrow morning. That'll cheer me up!

33 posted on 06/15/2002 2:57:01 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: diago
Help! The e-mail sent to Bishop Anthony Pilla using the link you provided was just returned.

I sent it to: rtyack@dioceseofcleveland.org

The return message said:

"This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

The following destination addresses were unknown (please check the addresses and re-mail the message):

rtyack@dioceseofcleveland.org

Please reply to techsupport@dioceseofcleveland.org if you feel this message to be in error."

I think I'll wait a bit and try again.

34 posted on 06/15/2002 2:57:58 PM PDT by dansangel
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To: Diago
The Diocese of Cleveland wasn't like this when I attended one of its schools 13 years ago.

My! What a difference a decade or so makes.

35 posted on 06/15/2002 2:58:34 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: american colleen
"I'm going to try to get up early tomorrow AM (5:00 Eastern) and watch Padre Pio's canonization tomorrow morning. That'll cheer me up!"

Thank-you for the kind words. What a great idea! Can you imagine what Padre Pio would think if he were alive today and was witness to all of this?

God Bless you.

36 posted on 06/15/2002 2:59:47 PM PDT by dansangel
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To: american colleen; siobhan; diago
Great idea, Colleen. I am writing my letters now.

Thanks everyone for the heads up!

37 posted on 06/15/2002 3:04:47 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Siobhan
A bump for your most excellent letter.
38 posted on 06/15/2002 3:05:24 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Siobhan
"2001"?
When was this parade.....last year?
When was the letter sent?
39 posted on 06/15/2002 3:06:28 PM PDT by mickie
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To: fatima
You are so right. I just keep getting riled up. Not one dime will leave my pocket until the Church pays us all back for paying out millions to the victims. Worse, they committed another sin, by tempting the victims with a buy-out. The betrayal is so egregious.

Until the Vatican is honest, the Church is ruined. WE need to go to confession? What a disgrace of the sacrament.

40 posted on 06/15/2002 3:24:06 PM PDT by Angelique
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