[Torie]

Vines' comments were execrable. Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

[browardchad]

In light of the slaughter of millions of Christians worldwide in the name of Islam, I thought Vines' comments were quite moderate -- and historically factual. Political correctness will most surely result in our imminent demise.

I wonder how many death-threats Vines has gotten from the disciples of the "religion of peace?" He would be wise to watch his back, given the history of Mohammed's disciples.

[moteineye]

Calling Mohammed a pedophile is not a subjective opinion.He was a grown man married to a nine year old girl.As far as being demon-possessed one might wonder.Vines was right.

[concerned about politics]

Dr. Vines also quoted from the Hadith, a respected source for Islamic teaching among Muslim clerics and followers worldwide. Upon examination, the Hadith verifies that Muhammad did marry the nine-year-old daughter of a friend. The girl, named Aisha, became known as the “mother of believers.”

A lengthy passage from the Hadith, volume 1, book 1, chapter 1, shows that Muhammad himself believed he was under demonic influence, but it notes that Muhammad’s wife is the one who deemed his experience as “divine,” said Ergun.

Thread here

[Map Kernow]

but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose

Certainly no political purpose, but a religious purpose? Absolutely. This was a religious conference, and Reverend Vines was contrasting Jesus and Mohammed. Mohammed spoke of himself in the Hadith traditions as "demon possessed," and the speculation is that he had epilepsy. He also married girls at an age that would have him prosecuted for statutory rape in the United States. Reverend Vines should not be excoriated for defending his religion, or pointing out facts garnered from Muslim religious tradition.

[willyone]

Tough shit. They have no problem calling for the death of Jews and Christians. You need to get a clue about what we are up against.

[LarryLied]

Vines' comments were execrable. Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

I thought so when I first heard the comments but now I don't know. Vines may have begun a flushing out of the crazies. That is a good thing.

[Thumper1960]

Hardly.

Muhammad was a pedophile and was demonic in his exhortations to his followers. Any objective reading of the record will show this to be true.

Vines was correct in substance and politically incorrect in voicing it.

Islam is evil. Case closed.

[Dec31,1999]

Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

Islam is above criticism if you want to live a long life. Watch the Pastor cave to the pressure, or even threats behind the scenes.

This issue of the comments is great because it brings to the forefront people's attention to the Koran. It's generating interest among the people as to who these people really are and what they really believe and the destruction that they are capable of.

[AmericaUnited]

Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

A lengthy passage from the Hadith, volume 1, book 1, chapter 1, shows that Muhammad himself believed he was under demonic influence"

"No more witnesses your honor, I rest my case."

[Publius6961]

Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

Uhhh...
What part of that isn't true?

[Aquinasfan]

Vines' comments were execrable. Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose.

Subjective? Married a six year old and consumated the relationship at age nine? If you don't call it pedophilia, what do you call it?

It certainly seems logical that Mohammed would have been possessed considering the violent nature of his teachings. Regardless, the Hadith indicates that Mohammed considered himself to be under demonic influence. (see #2)

It's time to clear the air regarding this religion. Let the debate begin.