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Muslim Community Speaks Out
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| 06/14/02
| WTLV-12
Posted on 06/14/2002 7:57:25 PM PDT by tutstar
JACKSONVILLE, FL - After maintaining silence for several days the local Muslim community is finally speaking out about the controversy created by Reverend Jerry Vines earlier in the week at the Southern Baptist Convention.
Islamic Center President Shakur Bolden addressed the public Friday in an attempt to undo the damage done to the Muslim community. Bolden began by asking his followers "How can one be demon possessed and tell us to live in peace and harmony? Is that a demon possessed person?"
The questions he asked stemmed from the comments made by Reverend Jerry Vines. Said Vines, "Islam was founded by Mohammed, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives and his last one was a 9 year old girl."
In his sermon before a packed mosque, Bolden took special aim not so much at the words Vines used by Vines but at the ignorance that fueled them. He chastised Vines for speaking about a culture he knows little of and perhaps for knowing even less of his own.
Said Bolden, "If we were even to read the history of our country, the United States of America, we would find that up to a hundred years ago, marriage was legal at the age of ten."
In addition to addressing followers of the Muslim faith on Friday, a full page ad will run in the Florida Times Union on Saturday and will feature a letter from Bolden to the Reverend Vines. The letter talks about how offensive Vines' language was to all Muslims and asks him to clear the air by meeting with Bolden.
Muslims say that they are concerned about the damage that could be done from the comments that the Reverend made. Tahirah Abdullah said, "I wish he had been a little bit more sensitive in the words that he used. I think pedophile is a strong word. I don't know why he did that but I hope he learns." Hafez Assali added, "We hope everyone understands to respect to one another and not to rush to a quick judgment."
In the meantime, Reverend Jerry Vines is preparing to speak to his congregation for the first time since he made the controversial comments, this Sunday. You can watch Vines' sermon live Sunday at 10:30am on WTLV12.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: drvines; islam; jacksonville; muhammed; muslims
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To: twntaipan
You know? I have heard Dr. Ergun Caner preach 3 times. He is gifted, to say the very least. But to hear him speak of how a Muslim has no certainty of their eternity is bone chilling. When they come to the end of their life, if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds then they will go to heaven. The only way to erase the bad deeds is by becoming a martyr.
This is in stark contrast to Christianity where one receives eternal life as a gift from God through faith in Jesus Christ.
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:25:05 PM PDT
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tutstar
To: xm177e2
It doesn't matter what was legal, now or then, because just imagine a 50 year old man having sexual relations with a 9 year old girl. Can you imagine how painful it would have been for her, how scary, how completely unwanted and invasive? A 9 year old! A child! It is not natural and is cruel, physically and emotionally. Any man who would satisfy himself this way is selfish, brutal and SICKO.
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:25:45 PM PDT
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Inkie
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To: Torie
"Blah blah esoteric blah blah, ivory tower BS, blah blah blah. Blah theoretical blah blah blah. Blah blah can't we all just get along and be nice to the demon-possessed pedophiles blah blah blah blah blah." Here's a real-life modern day example of the "Peaceful Religion" that you want us to be more constructive in our criticism of:
Around 2:45 a.m., the girl said Rhazouani came into her room quietly and awakened her. She said she was half asleep and Rhazouani was whispering to her.
She said she could feel a small knife, which fit into his hand, held to her throat. He'd taken it from his rear pants pocket.
Before he raped her, he asked her how old she was and if she were a virgin. When the girl told him that she'd never had sex, he said, "It won't hurt. I'll be gentle."
MUSLIM Charged in Rape of ELEVEN Year Old Girl
Like the Tories of our American Revolution, you are on the side that is against America.
To: jrewingjr
Wow. You got all that out of my posts?
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:30:15 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Torie
Wow. You got all that out of my posts? uh....yeh!
To: Torie
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:32:36 PM PDT
by
tomkat
To: Torie
You got your helmet on?
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:34:56 PM PDT
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jwalsh07
To: TLBSHOW
Islam is a fake religion. False. Islam is the enemy! 5 posted on 6/14/02 8:10 PM Pacific by TLBSHOW
And they worship a man named muhammid. They should be called muhammidans!!
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:35:41 PM PDT
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timestax
To: Shooter 2.5
"Said Bolden, "If we were even to read the history of our country, the United States of America, we would find that up to a hundred years ago, marriage was legal at the age of ten." Shooter 2.5, also consider that those in America up to a hundred years ago that were marrying young were not the founders of a religion. They were probably uneducated farmers and laborers.
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:36:35 PM PDT
by
zeaal
To: tutstar
Islamic Center President Shakur Bolden addressed the public Friday in an attempt to undo the damage done to the Muslim community. Bolden began by asking his followers "How can one be demon possessed and tell us to live in peace and harmony? Is that a demon possessed person?"
Islam: A religion of peace. And harmony.
Perhaps we could still sell the Brooklyn Bridge while it's still here.
To: quimby; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Snow Bunny; GOPJ; father_elijah; elenchus...
Demon-possessed pedophile ping.
To: jwalsh07
Naw, on FR, I ride the motorcycle without a helmet. I enjoy the wind toying with my few remaining strands of hair.
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:37:20 PM PDT
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Torie
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To: tutstar
Shoot, for a second there I thought they were gonna' denounce the terrorists. Never mind.
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posted on
06/14/2002 9:39:31 PM PDT
by
lawdog
To: MissAmericanPie
"Since they wouldn't open their mouths on 9-11, they can keep their yaps shut now and forever more as far as I am concerned."BTT !
To: tutstar
bttt
To: 4ourprogeny
Clarifying that Vines not only quoted from their recent book, "Unveiling Islam," Emir and Ergun Caner said Vines also quoted from the Hadith, a highly respected source for Islamic teaching among Muslim clerics and followers worldwide. The Hadith itself verifies that Muhammad married a 6-year-old girl and consummated the marriage when she was 9, the professor-brothers said.
The article is in post #2
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06/14/2002 9:41:43 PM PDT
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tutstar
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To: Torie
Islam is not above criticism, but to call Mohammed a demon possessed pedophile is a subjective comment, incendiary, and achieves no useful purpose. Islam is above criticism if you want to live a long life. Watch the Pastor cave to the pressure, or even threats behind the scenes.
This issue of the comments is great because it brings to the forefront people's attention to the Koran. It's generating interest among the people as to who these people really are and what they really believe and the destruction that they are capable of.
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