Posted on 06/14/2002 11:30:13 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
"We have got to share this planet with the other living creatures, and sharing means not merely preserving them in zoos or National Parks, but setting aside huge areas. Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference. Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights."
-Edward Abbey-Deep Ecology for the 21st Century: The Natural Wonder: An Ecocentric World View. New Dimensions Radio, 1998.
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"The only hope of the Earth is to withdraw huge areas as inviolate natural sanctuaries from the depredations of modern industry and technology. Move out the people and cars. Reclaim the roads and the plowed lands."
-Dave Foreman, Confessions of an Eco-Warrior
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"At first glance, a vision of North America with regained wildness and biodiversity seems unrealistic, even utopian. But when we consider that restoration at this scale is a process requiring decades or even centuries, it begins to make sense."
-Noss and Cooperrider, 1994, "Saving Natures Legacy, Protecting and Restoring Biodiversity." Island Press, Washington, D.C.)
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"Does all the foregoing mean that Wild Earth and The Wildlands Project advocate the end of industrialized civilization? Most assuredly. Everything civilized must go..."
-John Davis, editor of Wild Earth magazine
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"The crucial paradigm shift the Deep Ecology movement envisions as necessary to protect the planet from ecological destruction involves the move from an anthropocentric to a spiritual/ecocentric value orientation...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet."
-George Sessions, editorial advisor, Wild Earth magazine
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"Furthermore, most attempts to use sustainability as a management paradigm have been anthropocentric, biased toward commodity production, and seriously flawed from a biological standpoint."
-Wild Earth magazine
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"Our vision is simple: we live for the day when Grizzlies in Chihuahua have an unbroken connection to Grizzlies in Alaska; when Gray Wolf populations are continuous from New Mexico to Greenland; when vast unbroken forest and flowing plains again thrive ans support pre-Columbian populations of plants and animals; when humans dwell with respect, harmony, and affection for the land; when we come to live no longer as strangers and aliens to this continent."
-Wildlands Project vision statement
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Many ecologist (myself included) would just as soon see huge areas of land kept off limits to human activities of any kind."
-Noss, R. 1995. Maintaining Ecological Integrity in Representative Reserve Networks. World Wildlife Fund Canada Discussion Paper. p. 12.)
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One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."
-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991
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"it is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class, involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air conditioning, and suburban housing, are not sustainable."
-Maurice Strong
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"I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today" [and] "We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox."
-Dave Foreman, Sierra Club, co founder of Earth First!
I could live with this one. But then again, they probably mean something different from this than I do.
One People
One Planet
One slab of Asphalt. . . .
"We have got to share this planet with the other living creatures, and sharing means not merely preserving them in zoos or National Parks, but setting aside huge areas. Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference. Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights."
Then why don't you and the "we" you speak of go out and buy some land with your own money and leave my and other taxpayers money alone.
"The only hope of the Earth is to withdraw huge areas as inviolate natural sanctuaries from the depredations of modern industry and technology. Move out the people and cars. Reclaim the roads and the plowed lands."
No doubt you'd agree that you should be the first to be moved out to an uninhibited island in the South Pacific.
"At first glance, a vision of North America with regained wildness and biodiversity seems unrealistic, even utopian. But when we consider that restoration at this scale is a process requiring decades or even centuries, it begins to make sense."
Mark Twain once wrote: "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
"Does all the foregoing mean that Wild Earth and The Wildlands Project advocate the end of industrialized civilization? Most assuredly. Everything civilized must go..."
Then you'll feel right at home with Dave Foreman on that uninhibited island in the South Pacific.
"The crucial paradigm shift the Deep Ecology movement envisions as necessary to protect the planet from ecological destruction involves the move from an anthropocentric to a spiritual/ecocentric value orientation...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet."
Mark Twain once wrote: "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
"Furthermore, most attempts to use sustainability as a management paradigm have been anthropocentric, biased toward commodity production, and seriously flawed from a biological standpoint."
If you're not anthropocentric (human-centered) what are you,,,, a Klingon?
"Our vision is simple: we live for the day when Grizzlies in Chihuahua have an unbroken connection to Grizzlies in Alaska; when Gray Wolf populations are continuous from New Mexico to Greenland; when vast unbroken forest and flowing plains again thrive ans support pre-Columbian populations of plants and animals; when humans dwell with respect, harmony, and affection for the land; when we come to live no longer as strangers and aliens to this continent."
Aleins???...Are you a Klingon too!?
Many ecologist (myself included) would just as soon see huge areas of land kept off limits to human activities of any kind."
You and Edward Abbey (quoted at the top of this post and article) should go out and buy some land with your own money and leave my and other taxpayers money alone.
One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."
So you're the fool that Twain identified in making his astute observation that; "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
"it is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class, involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air conditioning, and suburban housing, are not sustainable."
Clear?? Yes, your functioning brain appears to be clear of rational thought.
"I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today" [and] "We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox."
Well, then you'd certainly agree with yourself being the first to go in order to lessen any supposed overpopulation problem. Don't forget to say good-by to mom and the kids, or will you be taking them to their deaths along with you?
-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991
For more insights into this anti-Human world see the "Death cultivation" bumplist and
Human Sacrifice Rationalization in 7th Grade Curriculum
Logical inversions: Many prominent arguments today just don't make sense
Review some of my comments at these.
-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991
Wow. Ole Jacques must have been a big fan of people like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. What a guy. He must have swallowed too much sea water.
Ted Nugent
Those guys were just the shock troops, setting the stage for your acceptance of what's in store.
"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not....
Developes a natural instinct, HELL!
Every animal, of every species KEEPS GIVING BIRTH UNTIL SOMETHING EATS IT!
When it's enemies are large enough, and sufficiently powerful, and sufficiently numberous to EAT IT, then the species becomes EXTERNALLY LIMITED... If the food supply becomes limited (for whatever reason) then the species STARVES TO DEATH, and its children STARVE TO DEATH.
So, what you are confirming, as it was said in the Bible!, is that humans have NOT YET met any spcies, of any size, type or ability, to kill them as a species. Nor have we found a limit to our ability to produce food, clothing, and shelter.
Therefore, we MUST, by your logic, continue to grow and transform earth.
Quote by Edward Abbey. Taken from The Earth Speaks by Steve Van Metre
"We must stop the universe to preserve nature!"
Good post. These monkeys are hilarious.
-George Sessions, editorial advisor, Wild Earth magazine
I don't have much use for these people and suspect their motives. But what this guy suggests here may also represent the only way to restore genuine human freedom. Restoring freedom requires the elimination of government and nothing much short of the above is going to accomplish that.
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