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To: CyberCowboy777
You want to play the burden of proof game? Prove God does not exist. Will you apply the scientific method and conclude that my claim cannot be scientific fact?

I knew sooner or later you would try to convolute this thread into a question of whether or not i believe in a deity, and if i can prove his non-existence! However i will not try to answer your question since i know there is no way to convince you otherwise, and trying to would just make you start posting acerbic replies to me...and i do nto like it when Freepers start attacking each other!

HOWEVER i will remind you that the reason i started posting stuff to you was to refute your assertion that the Earth is 6,000 years old! And you have posted replies to me saying that carbon and radiological dating is fallible, and that mistakes can be made. And do you know what? I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! Yep! you heard me, i agree that it is not 100% accurate! However there is a caveat in this:

If the dating says the world is around 4.5 billion years old....meaning that even if it was only 1% accurate the Earth would still be much older than 6,000years!

Wow, 6,000 years! And all the terrestrial species on Earth fitting into a boat. And people living for 800 years (unless they had a different method of measuring chronological progression) when it is common fact that humans are living longer nowadays and not in the past! And then there is the belief that woman came from a rib! Or that Goliath was an actual giant and not just a very tall guy. Or belief in the Nephilim!

Or belief in unicorns. And did i mention gnomes! And trolls.....hill trolls even. Or maybe griffons and the rising phoenix!

Puh-lease!

238 posted on 06/14/2002 3:51:46 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
If you read the post you would have seen that I was not really asking you to prove that God did not Exists.

The point was that we have to rely on the Standard and old earth/macroevolution does not meet that standard. Therefore, it cannot be stated as fact.

You cannot build a foundation of theory on a tool of measurement that is wrong. It maybe, kind of working does not make up for that. No matter the level of success, 1% or 50%. The probability that it is wrong cannot be limited to known wrongs so it can be used to prove anything. How do you know when it is right? It is possible that in measurements of the age of the earth it has never been right.

240 posted on 06/14/2002 4:17:41 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: spetznaz
Hmmm. If you read in the papers tomorrow that scientists took bone tissue from a sheep and used it to make another sheep of the opposite sex would you refuse to believe it? Then why would you disbelieve the idea that God could do the same?

As for Goliath, the Bible gives his height in a unit that we know (approximately). He was about nine feet tall- both a "really tall guy" and a giant.

The Nephilim are really interesting to me. The standard Christian belief is that they were the result of demons who left their proper abode and mated with human females. They were "locked up" until the last day, so demons don't do that any more. Another possibility is that they were Neadertals. Neadertals were taller and MUCH more robust than contemporary humans. They were the only hominids that were extant with humans (making human evolution quite unlikly). Could THEY have been the Nephilim (fellers, tyrants, giants), or "watchers" of Babyalonian stories?

246 posted on 06/14/2002 7:27:24 PM PDT by Ahban
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