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Ten Misconceptions About Islam
Trinity of Light ^ | FR Post 06-13-02 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/13/2002 3:17:42 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox
MISCONCEPTION #11: Islam is a religion of peace.
21 posted on 06/13/2002 3:49:25 PM PDT by ItsBacon
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To: Post Toasties
Face it. Muhammadism is mostly about abusing non Muslims. Even many of the oppressive Islamic rituals are designed to foster a sense of outrage against others. Muhammad was a pretty intuitive mass psychologist for a pagan, and nothing else except an overwhelming lust for power distinguished him from a common goatherder.
22 posted on 06/13/2002 3:51:42 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: vannrox
I'm sorry muslim/islam faithfuls have been rapeing, pillaging and murdering in the name of their god, who is a false god which the bible clearly warns us about, for centuries.

They also are fond of destroying christian holy sites(and jewish) to build they're mosque over top of them. This piece is propaganda. Trust us while we blow you to smitherens.

23 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:15 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: Post Toasties
You would still need to accept Muhammad as a Prophet of God and his words Holy. That cannot be as he is a Murderer

YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

YUSUFALI: This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.
PICKTHAL: That is because they opposed Allah and His messenger. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment.
SHAKIR: This is because they acted adversely to Allah and His Messenger; and whoever acts adversely to Allah and His Messenger-- then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

YUSUFALI: Thus (will it be said): "Taste ye then of the (punishment): for those who resist Allah, is the penalty of the Fire."
PICKTHAL: That (is the award), so taste it, and (know) that for disbelievers is the torment of the Fire.
SHAKIR: This-- taste it, and (know) that for the unbelievers is the chastisement of fire.

24 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:25 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: vannrox
Question 16 "Does Islam tolerate other beliefs?"

The Quran says: God forbids you not, with regards to those who fight you not for [your] faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them; for God loveth those who are just. (Quran, 60.8) It is one function of Islamic law to protect the privileged status of minorities, and this is why non-Muslim places of worship have flourished all over the Islamic world. History provides many examples of Muslim tolerance towards other faiths: when the caliph Omar entered Jerusalem in the year 634, Islam granted freedom of worship to all religious communities in the city.


I guess the folks who served in Desert Storm were just confused about having a Bible available to them in Saudi Arabia...........
25 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:44 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: vannrox
One question was left un-asked. "What about Wahabism?" Other questions relating to this come to mind. "What is the Wahabist sect of Islam?" "Is Wahabism a legitimate sect, or a distortion... to be condemmed?" "Is terrorism and it's identification with Islam a result of the preaching of the Wahabist sect?" "What about militant Shiite Islam?" "Can Wahabist sect members, and those with similar creeds, cause a worldwide war between Islam and the West?" "Is the government of Saudi Arabia facilitating the spreading of Wahabism across the Islamic world?" "Should Muslim clerics condemn Wahabism and State Terrorism, as practiced by Muslim states such as Iran?" And finally, "Isn't this what is really the problem, and what we are talking about in the first place,... and not American intolerance for Islamic people?"
26 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:47 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: vannrox
Are you trying to *educate* the masses regarding Islam or are you illustrating how hypocritical that 'cult' really is?
27 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:59 PM PDT by Ravaged Nation
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To: vannrox
MISCONCEPTION #1: Muslims are violent, terrorists and/or extremists.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sure Leon Klinghofer appreciated that distinction before he was in his wheelchair and his lifeless body was dumped overboard.

I'm also sure that grandmother and 18 month old BABY appreciated it before the ICE CREAM PARLOR they were at was bombed - ending the child's life.

And I'm sure the 2300+ victims of the World Trade Center also appreciate you clearing that up.

MISCONCEPTION #2: Islam oppresses women.

I'm sure Afghani women appreciate you assuring them. As do teenage girls who are forced to undergo mandatory female circumcision.

MISCONCEPTION #3: Muslims worship a different God.

That is certainly comforting to know, though I'm a bit confused as to why my Christian Bible doesn't mention that it's okay to murder 1 million American Children.

MISCONCEPTION #4: Islam was spread by the sword and intolerant of other faiths.

You've got a point here. An Airplane makes a much louder statement.

MISCONCEPTION #5: All Muslims are Arabs

I gotta give you that. AlQuida members are from Saudi Arabia, Africa, Kasakstan, etc. ... Yassar Arafat is Egyptian, the man who planned the WTC was Kuati, John Walker Lindh is an American, and that gang kid is from Chicago.

Yeah, Islam is a real equal opportunity employer.

MISCONCEPTION #6: The Nation of Islam is a Muslim group.

The same religion that supports Arafat is denouncing Farakhan? Why that makes all the difference.

MISCONCEPTION #7: All Muslim men marry four wives.

4 wives vs. 72 virgins. You do the math.

MISCONCEPTION #8: Muslims are a barbaric, backward people.

Yeah, killing an innocent 18 month old by bombing an ice cream parlor is real cosmopolitan behavior.

MISCONCEPTION #9: Muhammad was the founder of Islam and Muslims worship him.

And I care because ...

MISCONCEPTION #10: Muslims don't believe in Jesus or any other prophets.

I'm sure Jesus appreciates that. He's got enough people killing in his name.

Here's the thing, folks. Until Palistinians stop dancing in the streets when innocent Americans die, until Saders, ice cream parlors, school buses and pizza places stop being military targets, and until THE REST OF ISLAM TAKES TO THE STREETS AND DENOUNCES THE TERRORISM THAT DEFINES YOUR RELIGION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, we won't give a rat's ass what is misconstrued about Islam.

We have a saying here in America ... "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care."

So I'd suggest you stop plugging bandwidth with propaganda and get your ass in gear ...
28 posted on 06/13/2002 3:57:10 PM PDT by MattGarrett
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To: vannrox
The Biggest Misconception About Those Who Defend Islam:

Islam Defenders Are Intelligent People


29 posted on 06/13/2002 3:57:35 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: vannrox
Muslims are violent, terrorists and/or extremists. This is the biggest misconception in Islam, no doubt resulting from the constant stereotyping and bashing the media gives Islam.

Yup, couldn't possibly be the 1300 years of warfare you bastards unleashed on us Orthodox. To bad for you we don't just give up but give as good as we get. Go peddle this fantasy BS somewhere else...like Chapel Hill. The hollow brained will be more willing to believe it.

30 posted on 06/13/2002 4:01:31 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: vannrox
#1, #2 & #4 ... BAH!!
31 posted on 06/13/2002 4:07:07 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: vannrox
Note to allah
Jesus is God
32 posted on 06/13/2002 4:11:01 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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33 posted on 06/13/2002 4:14:45 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: vannrox
We had a short interlude on a thread yesterday about your mamalist (s**t list) of islam websites. Today you show your colors. I don't know who you are but have come to the conclusion that you have much sympathy for the devils of islam. Yesterday you gave me a song and dance about being informed and today are trying to immerse the entire FR with this islam crap. I think you speak out both sides of your mouth and your tounge is forked. Go away!
34 posted on 06/13/2002 4:15:26 PM PDT by Dlta4ce
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Quick question.....does anyone know what the thinnest paper I can use on an HP Inkjet printer?

I want to print this out a few times.........I'm running out of TP.

35 posted on 06/13/2002 4:17:15 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: vannrox
What a piece of propoganda crap.
36 posted on 06/13/2002 4:18:18 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater
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To: AmericaUnited
Re:"Are all Muslims this utterly confused??!!"

Mostly, YES.

37 posted on 06/13/2002 4:21:51 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: vannrox
Holy mackeral! Get a clue. If you need all these words to justify Islam, that should tell you it's a little confused in the head. Try some Christianity, which can be arguably be boiled down to:

"Love thy neighbor as thyself."

Islam can't handle that concept, apparently.

38 posted on 06/13/2002 4:23:50 PM PDT by lds23
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To: vannrox
no doubt resulting from the constant stereotyping and bashing the media gives Islam.

No doubt. The fact that a group of Muslim loonies just hijacked four jetliners and ploughed them into various American buildings and soil is just a misunderstanding. As are the countless self-propelled bombs strolling through the streets of Jaifa, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem. As was the 1993 Trade Center bombing, the maimings and executions in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, and the sheer treachery of our duplicitous Saudi "friends."

Yeah, those crazy media. They get it wrong every time, don't they?

39 posted on 06/13/2002 4:29:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: CyberCowboy777
Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors." (Quran 2:190)

Muslims claim we take the negative things of the koran out of context. So let place things into context: 002.190
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

002.193
And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

Woman:

002.223
Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

002.228
And the divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three courses; and it is not lawful for them that they should conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the last day; and their husbands have a better right to take them back in the meanwhile if they wish for reconciliation; and they have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

002.282
O ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligations in a fixed period of time, reduce them to writing Let a scribe write down faithfully as between the parties: let not the scribe refuse to write: as Allah Has taught him, so let him write. Let him who incurs the liability dictate, but let him fear His Lord Allah, and not diminish aught of what he owes. If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence). Disdain not to reduce to writing (your contract) for a future period, whether it be small or big: it is juster in the sight of Allah, More suitable as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves but if it be a transaction which ye carry out on the spot among yourselves, there is no blame on you if ye reduce it not to writing. But take witness whenever ye make a commercial contract; and let neither scribe nor witness suffer harm. If ye do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So fear Allah; For it is Good that teaches you. And Allah is well acquainted with all things. If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, let the trustee (faithfully) discharge his trust, and let him Fear his Lord conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it, - his heart is tainted with sin. And Allah knoweth all that ye do.

004.011
Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Al-wise.

004.034
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

004.015
And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.

Hadith Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Islam was spread by the sword and intolerant of other faiths.

009.005
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

009.028
O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

009.029
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

009.030
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Sura 2:65
And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."

Sura 3:110
Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.

Sura 5:51
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Sura 9:73
O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

Sura 98:6
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

Sura 8:65
O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.

Malik 511:1588 The last statement that Muhammad made was: "O Lord, perish the Jews and Christians. They made churches of the graves of their prophets. There shall be no two faiths in Arabia."

Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 50:
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked 'Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" 'Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Quran and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever)."

40 posted on 06/13/2002 4:29:55 PM PDT by knighthawk
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