[Coleus]

The untold story of the slaughter of Christians and Catholics since the inception of Islam and it's getting worse today,e.g. Africa. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the World, kind of scarey, isn't it? I have Coptic friends who had to flee Egypt from the persecution of their people. Many are killed in "so-called" staged accidents on their way to church, how clever of them. What they do is plan accidents with trucks slamming into them; they kill children going to school in school buses and others going to church.

Oh, and all of you out there who like the idea of a NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION CARD, OR SAMART CARD, think again, they have them in Egypt, and it's used AGAINST CHRISTIANS, seems the governing authority, MUSLIMS, use the cards to profile, harass and get even with the Coptic Christians, (religious preference is on the card) by not giving them jobs, setting them up for religious execution, by not frequenting their stores if they are in business, in other words, they are treated as 2nd-class citizens in their country where a religious faith of totalitarism is paramount. Sure, it sounds kind of innocuous now, but wait and see who is in office and what additions they put on the card: religion, political party, gun owner, right to life, etc., Do you remember a time when the social security card was issued and was NEVER used for identification--it was even printed on the bottom or the card--not to be used for identification. Now you can't even buy a cell phone without giving your Social Security number. Even conservative Chuck Muth requests it for his long distance service!

[Ff--150]

We are so blessed to be Americans, really blessed. How many of us would keep the faith in the USA?

[Ben Bolt]

If all that Mr. Trifkovic writes is true then this is a religious war and better be understood as one. I understand that President Bush cannot declare it so as there are American Citizen who are Muslims. However, we who are American Citizens who are not Muslim must understand this is a war against all who are infidels (any and all non muslims), and our death, or conversion is the goal. The fall of our economics, freedoms, tolerance, rights the very things our Constitution protects are grist for their death mill.

This is very frightening in it's historical succeess overwhelming. This is a war we are fighting that will go on forever, and we must be vigilent that we do not become complacent, because it can happen that we lose all that we have. Europe is in a panic right now over the large Muslim immigration, rightly so, it appears.

[WIMom]

      

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[arthurus]

I read well into this thinking it was a valuable compendium until I came to the portion dealing with Turkey amd the Christians of western Anatolia . While the allegations are correct, Trifkovic omits some relevant facts, for one, the invasion of the Greek army as the sultanate fell. The Greeks made a grab for the Ionian coast. The Greek tactics were quite in keeping with the way of war and conquest that existed in that part of the world and the Greeks were repaid in the accustomed coin.

If the fact of the greek invasion had been included, I would be more trusting of the rest of the article.

[livius]

Pinging random Catholics and fellow-travelers.

[ValerieUSA]

The author of The New Persecuted: Inquiries into Anti-Christian Intolerance in the New Century of Martyrs, Antonio Socci, has been accused that by raising the issue of Christian suffering in the Muslim world he "demonizes Islam."

No one can demonize Islam at this point. It's too late. Islam is already thoroughly demonized by Islam.

[JMJ333]

bttt

[Siobhan]

Coleus, we need to stop funding Mubarak, period. And I agree with your admonition. A national I.D. is a disastrous idea -- and if it is married with the identity chip implants, you have something really diabolical IMO.

[Coleus]

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[RaceBannon]

bump

[SunkenCiv]

stumbled across this topic, and the two quoted below, quite by accident, please forgive the intrusion:

The Real History of the Crusades ^
			Posted by RebelDawg On News/Activism ^ 05/29/2002 6:43:31 PM PDT with 46 comments crisismagazine ^ | April 1, 2002 | Thomas F. Madden The Real History of the CrusadesBy Thomas F. MaddenWith the possible exception of Umberto Eco, medieval scholars are not used to getting much media attention. We tend to be a quiet lot (except during the annual bacchanalia we call the International Congress on Medieval Studies in Kalamazoo, Michigan, of all places), poring over musty chronicles and writing dull yet meticulous studies that few will read. Imagine, then, my surprise when within days of the September 11 attacks, the Middle Ages suddenly became relevant.As a Crusade historian, I found the tranquil solitude of the ivory tower shattered by journalists, editors, and...
The Crusades in the Checkout Aisle: CRUSADES NONSENSE FROM U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT ^
			Posted by Dr. Brian Kopp On News/Activism ^ 04/12/2002 9:28:57 PM PDT with 25 comments CRISIS Magazine - e-Letter ^ | April 12, 2002 The Crusades in the Checkout Aisle Thomas F. Madden When I spied the U.S. News & World Report with the Crusades splashed across its cover, I braced for the worst. As a crusade historian, I long ago learned not to expect accuracy on this subject from the popular media. In fact, I usually avoid newspaper and magazine articles on the Crusades altogether, if only to keep my blood pressure under control. But there it was, staring me in the face. I had to read it. First, the good news. The article, written by Andrew Curry, was not dreadful. Curry did...

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[Salvation]

To read later.

[Ciexyz]

Most interesting, and frightening, read.