Jose Padilla
Posted on 06/10/2002 7:30:38 AM PDT by Dales
Breaking now. Details shortly
And, if there's a serial killing in my town, they will be getting pictures of white males in my age group and tackign them to a bullitin board. If there's a robbery, they will probably have have lineups with many blacks. If you are looking for an illegal, especially in the south.. chances are you are looking for a hispanic.
We profile all the time because we have statistics to guide us.
Do you think this is always a bad thing, or did I miss the point of your .jpeg lineup?
(Ya know, Gary Condit has "smarmy" hair.. )
This would certainly apply to Johnny Tallyban and that moron from France..
I feel robbed here.
I have absolutely no basis for this but I will make a WAG anyway. It could be that some one made the decision on Walker to let the public see the circus his trial will become and the disgust will reinforce future tribunal decisions. As to the French guy, he should have been put in front of the Tribunals and enjoying his virgins by now.
OK LETS SEE WHAT YOUR NOT GETTING HERE!
'DIRTY BOMB' SUSPECT CAN BE HELD INDEFINITELY Press Association
Mon Jun 10 2002 20:21:02 ET
The US citizen accused of plotting to detonate a radioactive dirty bomb in Washington faces an uncertain future in military custody.
Abdullah Al Mujahir has been moved from a civilian jail to a high-security US Navy prison in South Carolina after officials determined he was an "enemy combatant" who posed a serious and continuing threat to Americans.
But a US Justice Department official said there are no plans to make him face a military tribunal set up for alleged terrorists because these are only for non-Americans. Nor are there any plans to press criminal charges against the al Qaida suspect.
Under US legal rules, Al Mujahir can be held indefinitely an as enemy soldier, the official said.
US Attorney General John Ashcroft defended the position, claiming that Al Mujahir is being held under the laws of war and under a Supreme Court precedent which established that the military may detain a US citizen who has joined the enemy and entered America to carry out "hostile acts." THIS IS A DETERMINATION MADE BY DOJ OF THEIR READ OF THE LAW. NOT A COURTS.
The decision has been criticised by civil rights groups who said the US Government only moved him into military custody after failing to provide any evidence to keep him detained in the civilian legal system. Al Mujahir's access to a lawyer is also expected to be severely restricted now that he is in military custody. It is the latest controversy surrounding the American treatment of al Qaida and Taliban suspects. The US Government came under fire from civil rights groups across the globe when plans for military tribunals were first released last year.
Under the initial proposals, defendants would in some cases not get to hear the evidence against them.
The revised plan for the tribunals, released by US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in March, give the accused many of the rights enjoyed by defendants in a normal trial.
But they will have limited right of appeal, and standards for evidence will be more relaxed.
Evidence which a "reasonable person" would consider relevant will be allowed to be heard in the commissions. This is a looser standard than US military and civilian courts, and is likely to give prosecutors more room for manoeuvre.
Hearsay evidence will be permitted, as will materials where the chain of custody cannot be fully established. US authorities said this was necessary due to the special circumstances of the war.
Suspects brought before the tribunals will have the right to a civilian lawyer as well as the military one assigned to them at the cost of the government.
They face the death penalty if convicted.
Mr Rumsfeld's promised that the tribunals will be "fair, balanced and just".
But William Shulz, executive director of Amnesty International USA, said: "We fear that in the proceedings undertaken by military commissions, justice may neither be done, nor seen to be done."
No tribunals have yet been scheduled.
NO TRIBUNALS! NO CHARGES! JUST DETENTION!
Why? He is not talking., he is taking the fifth........I am not support this guy I am however defending the Constitution. CHARGE HIM WITH SOMETHING!
If I was in charge...
Bang!
Let him get off after we got him and then blame left leaning judges and liberal courts..
And, rightly so I might add.
Comprende Dud?
Read the decision, it is where constitutional law stands at this point in time. Your argument ain't with me pal, its with the authors and SCOTUS. Read the link!
NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING OR GOING TO HAPPEN ACCORDING TO DOJ!
Additionally WWII was a declared war, this is not. We do not have martial law here right now. Maybe we should.
Regards to Moussoui and the Muslim do ragger.
IN A DECLARED WAR! NO COURT HAS RULED ON THIS CASE YET! SO WHAT COURT UPHELD THIS LATELY? Declared war is a very different matter. This is something a COURT OF LAW NEEDS TO EITHER UPHOLD OR NOT. IF ONE DOES THEN I AM HAPPY. BUT I AM NOT HAPPY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT MAKES THESE DECISIONS A L O N E!
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