Posted on 06/09/2002 5:20:38 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Jun 9, 2002
Jewish Group to Start Armed Patrols of Brooklyn, Rabbi Says By Ted Shaffrey Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) - Citizens armed with shotguns will patrol the streets of the heavily Jewish Brooklyn neighborhoods because of comments a suspected terrorist made about targeting them, a rabbi said.
The patrols, to begin June 16, are in response to comments Abdul Rahman Yasin made during an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" on June 2, said Rabbi Yakove Lloyd, founder and president of the right-wing Jewish Defense Group.
Yasin, who is sought by the FBI in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, said in an interview from a compound in Iraq that he and his accomplices originally targeted heavily Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn.
They later decided to attack the twin towers because they believed most of their occupants were Jewish, Yasin said. Six people were killed and more than 1,000 were injured in the 1993 bombing.
The largest segment of the population in the Borough Park and southern Flatbush neighborhoods is Hassidic and Orthodox Jews. There are 290 synagogues in the area.
Lloyd said the street patrols would include 50 to 200 people of various religious faiths, mainly Jews, carrying shotguns in bags, along with people licensed to own and carry other types of firearms. Others will carry bats, pipes, cell phones and walkie-talkies and will patrol the streets daily from 9 p.m. until 3 a.m. except Friday, the Jewish Sabbath.
"This will be a very effective deterrent against terrorism directed at American Jews and other targets," Lloyd said.
The rabbi criticized the police department for not adequately protecting the neighborhoods and said, "the only people who will view us as vigilantes already look at us that way anyway."
It is illegal to carry an exposed shotgun on city streets, New York Police Department spokeswoman Valerie St. Rose said. She said it was unclear whether carrying one in a bag is illegal.
"We'll monitor the (patrols), and if there needs to be police action taken, it will be taken," said St. Rose, who declined to say how many officers routinely patrol the neighborhoods.
A community leader from Williamsburg, another heavily Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, said he opposes the armed patrols.
"The Jewish community condemns such a thing. We don't need it. We can't have civilians running around with guns. It's going to look like Beirut here," said Isaac Abraham.
The Jewish Defense Group is "a group of men and women who are proud to be Jews" and are committed to defending, demonstrating and rallying for Jewish causes and against anti-Semitism, according to its Web site.
The JDG, founded by Lloyd in Queens in 1985, says it follows the principles of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League.
In January, JDL chairman Irv Rubin and a group member were charged with conspiring to blow up a mosque and the office of an Arab-American congressman in California. Rubin and his co-defendant, Earl Krugel, pleaded innocent and are scheduled to go on trial Oct. 1.
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Taking back America.....one community at a time....
No more defenseless Jews waiting to be slaughtered, this time by Arab terrorists.
Translation :-) By symbolically combining the whole Jewish neighborhood into 1 giant private domain, the issue of carrying in a public one is moot. Furthermore, since there is a possibility of danger to self or others, all Rabbinic restrictions on touching/carrying items with no normal use on the Sabbath are waived.
Ari
EXCELLENT idea! And quite ingenious, I must say.
(gee, who'da imagined I would ever post agreement with Miss Marple... ;-)
The Jewish Defense Group is "a group of men and women who are proud to be Jews" and are committed to defending, demonstrating and rallying for Jewish causes and against anti-Semitism, according to its Web site.
The JDG, founded by Lloyd in Queens in 1985, says it follows the principles of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League.
In January, JDL chairman Irv Rubin and a group member were charged with conspiring to blow up a mosque and the office of an Arab-American congressman in California. Rubin and his co-defendant, Earl Krugel, pleaded innocent and are scheduled to go on trial Oct. 1.
No other mention of the Jewish Defense League or the difference between the two groups. This is pure BS on the part of AP - are we surprised?
All together now...
NO!
I suggest either of two riot guns - the Mossberg 590 (pump) or the Benelli M1 Super 90 (semi).
Both are thoroughly reliable. Though the Benelli costs more than some other semi shotguns, it's the only one of them I'd bet my life on.
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Pay very close attention to Isaac Abraham's phrasing. His use of the term "civilians" is typical radical liberal BS. He incorrectly uses the term as; "those who are not members of law enforcement". The accurate use is; "those who are not members of the armed forces of the United States."
This distinction is important. Civilian citizens of the United States have the absolute right of self-defense. It is also an obligation. Law enforcement officers are also civilians. They have a very tough job. As sworn agents of government, they have a higher accountability than nonsworn citizens. They also have a degree of "sovereign immunity" from prosecution for their actions while in pursuit of their duty. This does not and cannot relieve nonsworn citizens of their right of and obligation to self-defense!
Isaac Abraham should remember he is a citizen of the United States. As such, by federal law, he is a member of the militia. If the militia is called up, he ceases to be a "civilian". Until then, he and the law enforcement officers in his jurisdiction are all civilians.
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