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Pilot Charged in Carry - On Gun Case
News from the A.P./The New York Times ^ | June 8, 2002 | The Associated press

Posted on 06/08/2002 2:20:45 PM PDT by ladybast

Filed at 2:59 p.m. ET

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- An American Airlines pilot faces misdemeanor charges for toting a loaded gun in his carry-on baggage while trying to board a plane at the San Diego airport.

William F. Blaylock told authorities he uses the gun for hunting and personal protection and had forgotten to remove it from his bag before heading to Lindbergh Field on April 23.

The weapon was detected during airport security screening.

On Friday, prosecutors filed two misdemeanor charges against Blaylock who, if convicted, faces up to a year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. He has been free on bond since April 24 and will be arraigned next week.

The airline wouldn't comment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: airsecurity; airtravel; armingpilots; banglist
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To: patriciaruth
Like the assumption you make about arming pilots, your assumption(s) about me are wrong as well. Like I said, I am content with what I know, and don't think you'd understand.
81 posted on 06/09/2002 6:14:04 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Orion
All of your points are well taken. I have been a member of ALPA for 25yrs, and I also think a SOS(suspension of service) would certainly get the traveling public and govt's attention. It would have to be a well-coordinated effort to include ALPA, APA and Southwest pilots. Nothing moves until we get a real, doable training program started for those pilots that want to be armed. They can shoot us down and kill a whole planefull of crew and pax, but we can't be armed to prevent a hijacking? What am I missing here?? Fly safe!
82 posted on 06/09/2002 6:21:50 AM PDT by jsraggmann
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To: Myrddin
Just givin' ya' a hard time!

Now that's a great pic - thanks for sharing it with all!

83 posted on 06/09/2002 6:34:29 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Myrddin
I am familiar with that range -- never shot there, though. Could shoot for free where I worked -- can't remember the name -- I worked there from 1990 until 1992. It was in Old Town and has been closed for some years. I had a lot of fun there, and met some great people. Became a pretty good shot and was, by some accounts, a decent firearms instructor.

The Chula Vista PD SWAT team used our range for practice for a spell when their range was being repaired. The taught me to shoot their MP-9s -- their discipline was a three shot burst in full auto. Trigger discipline to learn that is difficult, but once mastered, a lot of fun. BTW, those guys would come to the range with a case of 9mm for every weapon! And they were not selfish! They let a lot of non-PD civilian folks "qualify" with their MP-9s. In those days, they were good guys. Don't know what they are like nowadays.

84 posted on 06/09/2002 6:41:28 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: jsraggmann
Gun Site (I believe it was them) offered free tactical pistol training to all airline pilots if their airline would send the request for training on official airline stationary, signed by the airline President. There was a FR thread about that offer back in October, I believe.

Wonder why the Gun Site offer is not in the news?

85 posted on 06/09/2002 6:45:49 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: ladybast
I have said this on other threads and I will say it here as well.

I will not fly until the pilots are armed.

If they are going to take away my means to self defense before I get on an airplane, then they are FULLY responsible for my safety. THat safety is an armed pilot, and until he or she is armed, I am NOT going to give up my means to self defense, which means that I will NOT go into an airport, and I will NOT get on an airplane.
86 posted on 06/09/2002 7:24:13 AM PDT by Aric2000
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87 posted on 06/09/2002 7:36:03 AM PDT by WIMom
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To: DWSUWF
I'm going to 'Just Say No' to commercial aviation, for myself (and anyone else that I can influence) until they get it right.

Smart.

I not long ago completed my 29,000th command hour -- and I won't go near a bloody aeroplane unless I have to -- and even then, only for money.

The arse-in-butter feral-gummint-funded bureaucratic carriers [There are no owners around, only Peter-Principled, politician-bribing, bean-counting, "employees] -- especially United, American and USAir -- are dinasaurs and should be allowed to fail before they kill more of US. TWA and Northwest are not worth a mention. SouthWest, though, is essentially owner-operated and thus meets the major requirement for an airline -- that it be run by entrepeneurial enthusiasts -- not bloody bureaucrats! The Continental/America West/Alaska/Air Mike group passes muster, too.

All of the world's state-owned-and/or subsidised carriers -- and particularly Asia's:- China Airlines; Singapore; Korean; Garuda Indonesia; Thai; Sri Lanka; Air India; Philippines; etceteras; all of China's will, among them, soon be losing a major hull per week in a major catastrophe. [Lately they seem to be close to that already]

EVA and [Particularly] Royal Brunei, Australia's Qantas and Air New Zealand stand out, though and Malaysia Airlines listens to its pilots.

Practically all of Europe's state dinasaurs should be avoided. [A couple are still very good:- British is acceptable and Finnair and Scandanavian stand out -- as do Virgin and all of the ballsy budget carriers!]

And all of Africa's and Arabia's [Emirates is a fine stand-out] are -- like Indian Airlines and Burma [Myanmar] Airways -- vomit comets on the way to the accident site!

88 posted on 06/09/2002 8:25:57 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: M Kehoe;joanie-f;snopercod;Travis McGee;tangofox;Stand Watch Listen;redrock;JeanS;mommadooo3...
The President is an idiot on this matter, and the matter goes to his lack of integrity as to his instability with regard to firearms --- the political capital which he can exchange (from among our rights) in yet another compromise with Team Daschle, Hillary, and Schumer is simply too tempting for him to use at some future date, to otherwise take a stand upon, and for, individual responsibility, discipline and self-discipline ... which all are part of the safe keeping and bearing of Arms.

I'm bluntly stating that you cannot trust a President who will not place his trust in our pilots because he dismisses, again, personal responsibility and individual rights.

89 posted on 06/09/2002 9:20:03 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: ladybast
Sorry, if I missed it, but the article is confusing. Was this the actual pilot (assigned left seater for this leg of the flight), or was he merely deadheading? The article doesn't make the dictinction clear, and it seems that we are assuming the he was the pilot of the flight which he was boarding.

While I am all for allowing the flight crews (cockpit) to be armed, I have to have certain reservations about allowing any member of the airline staff, pilot or not, being allowed to carry.

If he was merely a staff pilot for the airline in question, then I would think that he should have been able to declare the weapon and either have it stowed in his checked baggage, or given to the cockpit crew (unloaded of course) to hold for the flight (like they used to do back in the 70's).

90 posted on 06/09/2002 9:29:50 AM PDT by par4
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To: M Kehoe;joanie-f;snopercod;Travis McGee;tangofox;Stand Watch Listen;redrock;JeanS;mommadooo3...
Every few minutes, here, Ethiopian and Somali taxi cab drivers pull up to the local airport terminal, there vehicles unchecked by any security team, yet you cannot park YOUR car within 300ft of the terminal.

There are not concrete barriers arrayed to stop a head-long charge by one or more of these cabbies and their car-bombs ... into the ground floor of the terminal; or for that matter, into and along any of the corriders of the passenger concourses!

There are absolutely no observation towers at any point along the perimeter of the airfield; there is not patrol.

Hijackers do not need passengers; they only need the planes.

There is not force to stop a concerted effort by 20 to 80 Islami-Fascists who can easily get onto the airport proper and take any number of aircraft.

At Chicago's O'Hare Field, such teams could attack the lineup of jets awaiting takeoff and leave with, out of group of 10 aircraft, probably 3 to 4, after shooting up the entire fuselage of the first plane in line, "to make a point" to the succeeding aircraft pilots observing the horror.

And we are expected to listen to lectures on how our pilots should not --- according to President Bush and the Bush [still running the Clinton Administration] --- carry firearms?!

91 posted on 06/09/2002 9:32:32 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Eagle Eye
What guy AJ? MY Maverick 12 gauge is about the same size as the 44 it would seem, and in close quarters I would rather have it.
92 posted on 06/09/2002 9:59:15 AM PDT by RWG
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To: ladybast
This sounds like an excellent tactic for bringing this issue to the public scrutiny. More pilots should practice this simple act of civil disobedience. It would make this issue harder for Bush to ignore. I believe it is a better tactic than a general strike by the pilots.

Could we be seeing more of this?

Search4Truth.

93 posted on 06/09/2002 11:17:50 AM PDT by Search4Truth
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To: First_Salute
"I'm bluntly stating that you cannot trust a President who will not place his trust in our pilots because he dismisses, again, personal responsibility and individual rights."

DITTO!!!!!!!!

redrock

94 posted on 06/09/2002 11:19:31 AM PDT by redrock
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To: Brian Allen
What are you trying to say...that American, United, etal are dangerous? If so, you are full of it! And TWA doesn't even exist anymore. Get your facts straight next time.
95 posted on 06/09/2002 11:29:40 AM PDT by jsraggmann
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To: toddst
If they go after this guy, I hope all the pilots strike.
96 posted on 06/09/2002 12:16:53 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: cpdiii
bttt!
97 posted on 06/09/2002 1:50:18 PM PDT by DontMessWithMyCountry
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To: LouD
That's why I like the Anaconda: the porting and barrel weight (8") definitely help. It's no .22, though...

My first Smith & Wesson was the 629PP. It has a 6 1/2" barrel with a port. I selected that one because it is long enough to meet most state handgun hunting requirements. I later added a 4 inch 629 because it is easier to find good leather for carry. Most of the time I like to shoot those two with 44 SPL. It's accurate and comfortable. More than adequate for self defense against the two-legged variety. The magnum rounds make good self defense when hiking in a area with predators e.g. black bear and mountain lions. We have both around here.

98 posted on 06/09/2002 2:25:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Taxman
I am familiar with that range -- never shot there, though. Could shoot for free where I worked -- can't remember the name -- I worked there from 1990 until 1992. It was in Old Town and has been closed for some years. I had a lot of fun there, and met some great people. Became a pretty good shot and was, by some accounts, a decent firearms instructor.

Sounds like you worked at Discount Gun Mart. Just a bit north of Clairemont Drive and east of I-5. That is a fairly nice shop. I had an annual membership at American Shooting Center, so it didn't make sense to pay for range time at Discount. I did pay for rentals and range time at the Oceanside Shooting Academy (near State 76 and Benet Rd). They have a very large selection of handguns from nearly every manufacturer for rent and/or sale. I tried out the Ruger .454 Casull there and liked it very much. When I was ready to buy one, they sold it to me at cost + $25. No other dealer was even close and that model was on allocation at th e time.

99 posted on 06/09/2002 2:33:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: anniegetyourgun
Just givin' ya' a hard time!

I know :-) My wife should have selected a screen name like yours. Her handgun collection outnumbers mine, but most of it is more tame and practical.

100 posted on 06/09/2002 2:37:47 PM PDT by Myrddin
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