Russian Fighters for American Airforce/Navy: The only prudent solution!

Flight Journal. ^ | Robert W. Kress with Rear Adm. Paul Gillcrist, U.S. Navy (Ret

[spetznaz]

This article seemed quite intriguing. At since the author is a retired American Rear Admiral he should know something about this. And if we were to purchase Su-33s, 'Americanize' them with our avionics and fire control systems, i am 100% sure they would be better than the F/A-18s we currently have.

The Australians have apparently seen the wisdom of this (they are replacing their F-18s and F-111s with Mig-29s and Su-27s) since they thought facing Indonesian Sukhois with F-18s was not a prudent thing to do, so they 'upgraded' to the sukhois.

The question is should we do the same until we get the F-22 for the USAF and the JSF for the Navy?

And do we really have an alternative? The reason i ask is that in Germany there was a matchup between USAF F-15s and Su-27s, and the Sukhois won the 'fight.' And since the Sukhois use the Rateka-77 (R77) AMRAAM-ski as their primary weapon, i am sure the 'American Sukhois' could be modified to carry our AMRAAM.

What do you guys think about this?

PS: This article had some glorious pictures of Sukhois. I wish i knew how to post them. My usual methods do not seem to work for pictures in FR.

[Inge_CAV]

Scale models show the relative sizes of the different fighters. From the left: MiG-29; F-14D; Su-27; F-15; F/A-18. Note the tiny relative size of the F/A-18 (photo by Walter Sidas).

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[spetznaz]

Ping

[spetznaz]

How did you do that?

[Inge_CAV]

< CENTER >< IMGsrc=" Url here " >< / CENTER > Not sure how to make it show up in a post though.

Remove the spaces and you should have it. : )

[spetznaz]

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[spetznaz]

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[spetznaz]

I give up!

[pt17]

[reform4me]

i think it makes perfect sense to purchase the cheap SU aircraft, at 8 million apiece how could we ever get better for less.

[The Other Harry]

[spetznaz]

How come everyone and his grandma can post pictures and i can't. Dang, and i thought i was good with HTML!

[Inge_CAV]

You will have to remove the spaces I put in to get it to show up on a reply. Try it again with out the spaces.

<-CENTER-><-IMGsrc="-Url here-"-><-/-CENTER->

These spaces, - .

[The Other Harry]

PS: This article had some glorious pictures of Sukhois. I wish i knew how to post them. My usual methods do not seem to work for pictures in FR.

If you right-click on the image you wish to post, you should see a link to the image in "properties". Copy that link -- all of it -- and then paste it into your message. Tag as usual.

It will NOT work if the source page requires users to log in. Otherwise, you should see it when you preview your post.

[GBA]

This idea has been tossed around before and I find it very intriguing, as well as economically feasable. The F/A-18 is simply a wonderful aircraft, but upgrading it to the F model is one of those ugly compromises that negates the good of the earlier models, while failing to meet the needs of of the Navy. In other words, they screwed up a good thing by trying to make it into something it isn't.

What do we want? We want the best aircraft for our pilots and we want them to come back from each mission. We used to be able to build the best airplanes for a fairly reasonalble amount of money in a reasonably short period of time. However, our bureaucratized process for aircraft procurment has priced us out of our own market. It's sad and somewhat dangerous. It takes a large amount of hours to design, build, and test new designs before they're worthy of the (battle) field. We have aging designs that are now facing or are soon going to face superior designs. Have we come to the point where we can't afford American labor any more?

[The Other Harry]

How come everyone and his grandma can post pictures and i can't. Dang, and i thought i was good with HTML!

You're probably trying too hard.

Basic syntax could be as simple as:

<img src="">

Then paste the link in between the quote marks.

[spetznaz]

[spetznaz]

Voila!

Thanks a lot. I was trying too hard! LOL

[lavaroise]

America can build its own thrust vectored hot-roded F14s and F18s. We don't need no Sus.