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Link between Saddam and New York attack: US claims
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Posted on 06/05/2002 9:56:41 PM PDT by knak
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To: monkeyshine
Go to BibleCodeDigest.com My particular favorite is the one where it suggests Saddam is confined to his room, puking his guts out! :0)
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posted on
06/06/2002 12:43:55 AM PDT
by
brat
To: stands2reason
I've never heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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posted on
06/06/2002 12:45:32 AM PDT
by
brat
To: knak
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posted on
06/06/2002 1:21:14 AM PDT
by
Cindy
To: brat
Ok, I won't bother mentioning that it is actually the sun that revolves around the earth.
BTW, Saul's consultation of sorcery and like didn't turn out to well, did it? The Bible speaks out against putting belief in false prophets and their mumbo jumbo, too. Or are you working with a loose-leaf bible?
To: Diddle E. Squat
Why is Ramsey Youseff still alive? If ever I saw a strong argument for the death penalty, he is it. Seems he has continued to mastermind terrorism from prison.
To: droberts
Yep, now we've taken care of Afghanistan now need and excuse to bomb Iraq as popular opinion isn't quite there yet And I suppose our poor excuse for taking care of Afghanistan was the skyscraper rubble in New York City. The United States is out of control! (Sarcasm)
To: knak
I found the announcement the other day about this new 9/11 mastermind somewhat curious in timing. Surely it did not take nine months to figure that out, so what was the political value in getting that story out? Perhaps the Irish Independent helped answer that question.
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06/06/2002 4:59:40 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: droberts
And how, for example, do you know that I havn't??? ;0)
To: droberts
How do we know he gassed Kurds or any of the other things he's been accused of doing? How do you know he really invaded Kuwait in 1990. For that matter what about the moon landing.
To: knak
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/15/national/main503807.shtml
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It alleges that convicted terrorist Ramzi Yousef was an Iraqi government agent. After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, for which he was later imprisoned, Yousef went to the Philippines where he recruited Terry Nichols, eventually convicted as a co-conspirator in the Oklahoma City bombing, to join a plot to blow up several U.S.-bound airliners, the lawsuit alleges.
Nichols had traveled to the Philippines between 1990 and 1994 seeking help in building a bomb, the lawsuit claims.
About three months after the airline-bombing plot was foiled and Nichols returned to the United States, Oklahoma City's Murrah building was destroyed, killing 168 and wounding hundreds. The lawsuit alleges that Abdul Hakim Murad, then imprisoned in the United States awaiting trial in the airline-bombing plot, said at the time that Yousef's network was responsible.
Years later, after the convictions of Nichols and McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing, the lawsuit alleges the global law enforcement arm Interpol was still trying to apprehend at least two other bombing suspects, one a foreign national.
McVeigh lawyer Stephen Jones said before the 1997 trial and in a book written afterward that there was evidence Nichols hooked up with Muslim fundamentalists in the Philippines and set McVeigh up as "a patsy."
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posted on
06/06/2002 6:10:33 AM PDT
by
honway
To: MeekNMing
See #30, it may be time for your ping list.
To: knak
The following is directly from the above article.
It proves nothing, nevermind Iraqi involvement. I'll be happy to join the chorus of neocon war hawks who are looking for Iraqi blood, but please prove your case before sending our troops off to war.
Before you cheer this "new information" ask yourself the following:
1) What "US security services" are involved.
2) Who are "the officials."
3) Please explain "the suspicions" that were mentioned.
4) Please name the " hawks in the Bush administration."
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- unidentified US security services
- possible new links between Iraq and the September 11 attacks.
- as being the possible mastermind of the atrocity.
- a Kuwaiti-born member of Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'ida organisation
- The officials said they believed he was at large somewhere... - there were suspicions that he was involved in the bombings
- However, it had not been known for sure that he was involved with al-Qa'ida, let alone at such a high level.
- Some hawks in the Bush administration anxious to launch a military invasion of Iraq believe that Yousef is in fact an Iraqi agent
- The new information, suggesting that Mohammed was deeply involved in both the operational and financial planning of the September 11 attacks, came largely from captured al-Qa'ida members including Abu Zubeida,
To: droberts
Politics has always been about manipulating public opinion so there is nothing new in that. I would not however categorize these people as "patsies" They are known terrorists who are undoubtedly involved in attacks that have killed Americans. They should be hunted down like the dogs they are and dealt with as you would any rabid animal. Connections to Saddam are no doubt plentiful and frankly if the American public needs to have a few dots connected for them publicly in order to drum up enough support to take out this madman before he sets off a nuke in Washington or New York city then so be it. Whatever it takes to get the job done. I dont have any sympathy for people who want to stick there heads in the sand and think if we just stand in a circle and sing John Lenin's Imagine than we could solve the worlds problems. If a little manipulation is what it takes to wake them up to the reality that there are people in the world who want them DEAD and will not hesitate to destroy the lot of us then so be it. Whatever it takes to get the job done...and this time get it done RIGHT.
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posted on
06/06/2002 6:32:37 AM PDT
by
Prysson
To: The Great Satan
#13: Mylroie has been discredited for more than a decade....
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-SNIP
CIA skeptical.
Former CIA Director James Woolsey, writing in the Wall Street Journal October 18, 1991 says the CIA dismissed the (Iraqi) story, evidently because "the CIA has always had an institutional bias in favor of information coming from recruited agents rather than volunteers and defectors."
There has been similar skepticism in the government about scholar Laurie Mylroie's theory that Ramzi Yussef, ringleader of the February 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was an Iraqi agent.
Mylroie's theory is susceptible to proof, by fingerprint evidence probably readily available in Britain. Publicly, the government has shown no interest in obtaining such evidence. But it's possible that someone behind the scenes has been looking--or will look-- and is keeping quiet about it. Publicly, government officials have been saying there is no evidence of Iraqi involvement in the September 11 attacks. But what is happening inside?
Are officials, as Woolsey suggests, skittering away from evidence of Iraqi involvement? Or are they accumulating evidence and keeping it quiet, holding it closely until the time comes to open a second front in Iraq?
-SNIP
Michael Barone, The second front. ,
U.S. News & World Report,
10-29-2001, pp 40.
To: honway; dubyaismypresident; Squantos; GeronL; Billie; sinkspur; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat...
It alleges that convicted terrorist Ramzi Yousef was an Iraqi government agent. After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, for which he was later imprisoned, Yousef went to the Philippines where he recruited Terry Nichols, eventually convicted as a co-conspirator in the Oklahoma City bombing, to join a plot to blow up several U.S.-bound airliners, the lawsuit alleges.
Nichols had traveled to the Philippines between 1990 and 1994 seeking help in building a bomb, the lawsuit claims.
About three months after the airline-bombing plot was foiled and Nichols returned to the United States, Oklahoma City's Murrah building was destroyed, killing 168 and wounding hundreds. The lawsuit alleges that Abdul Hakim Murad, then imprisoned in the United States awaiting trial in the airline-bombing plot, said at the time that Yousef's network was responsible.
Years later, after the convictions of Nichols and McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing, the lawsuit alleges the global law enforcement arm Interpol was still trying to apprehend at least two other bombing suspects, one a foreign national.
McVeigh lawyer Stephen Jones said before the 1997 trial and in a book written afterward that there was evidence Nichols hooked up with Muslim fundamentalists in the Philippines and set McVeigh up as "a patsy."
From Post #30.......
Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my ping list!. . .don't be shy.
To: rwfromkansas
numerology is not something a Christian should be doing
Agreed-- numerology is as baseless and meaningless as astrology and certainly nothing to which a Christian should resort.
To: Sabertooth
Some hawks in the Bush administration anxious to launch a military invasion of Iraq believe that Yousef is in fact an Iraqi agent and that the man ultimately responsible for many of the terror plots of the past decade is Saddam Hussein. I've been hearing about invading Iraq for the last 9 months. I don't know if that will ever happen.
To: MeeknMing
On please.
To: Victoria Delsoul
I've been hearing about invading Iraq for the last 9 months. I don't know if that will ever happen.
It's kinda funny, because whatever my impatience with Bush on certain domestic security issues, I find myself at the other end of the pole in the foreign theater. I think there are a number of wise reasons for the "delay" in attacking Iraq.
Not the least of which is the anthrax letters. I believe they were a message from Saddam to let us know that he has WMDs here and can deliver them on our soil. Now consider that we know he possesses smallpox, and that over 115 million Americans have never been vaccinated, and the rest of us could use a booster.
Last October, the CDC ordered 300 million doses of vaccine by sometime later this year.
Would you want to attack Iraq before then?
To: Clara Lou
Numerology? Even though I'm a skeptic (and laughed when I read the "Bible codes"), I don't think you can label this as Numerology. It seems like they are just applying code breaking techniques to the Bible.
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