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A Few Questions For Die-Hard Bush Supporters
Toogood Reports ^ | June 5, 2002 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/05/2002 1:20:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Let me just say up front that I am not addressing you if you voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and regret it. The same goes for those of you who voted for Bush and insist on holding his feet to the fire on the important issues. If, however, you cast your vote for Bush, still believe he is the only hope for America and intend to support every move he makes without so much as a raised eyebrow, this is for you.

It has been nearly a year-and-a-half since George W. Bush, the savior of conservatism, descended from on high to begin his earthly reign in Washington, D.C. Republicans assured us that he would restore integrity to the White House and would be a marked improvement over the promiscuous Bill Clinton. Well, in all honesty, that could have been accomplished by electing a neutered chimp to the office of president.

During the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush the man proved to be a nice break from Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Unlike Gore, Bush had a more likable...well, he actually had a personality. He also possessed the unique ability to address the American people without the smug and condescending vibe Clinton exuded. However, when it came to policy, George W. Bush the candidate failed to demonstrate that he would govern any differently than his Democrat counterparts.

Still, throughout the campaign, there was a loyal group of Bush supporters who would take offense at even the slightest implication that their candidate was anything but a staunch conservative. Even now, they continue to stand by their man, and I find this to be rather perplexing.

Perhaps those who have pledged their undying allegiance to President Bush could answer a few questions for me, in no particular order of course:

•  How would you have reacted if Bill Clinton had signed the Patriot Act into law and given the government sweeping new surveillance powers?

•  Would you have criticized a Democrat president for signing a $26 billion education-spending bill?

•  Did you feel betrayed when Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform into law?

•  What do you think about Bush's position on granting amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants?

•  Would you have tolerated a Democrat proposal for federally funded faith-based initiatives?

•  What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had said, "No one should have to pay more than a third of their income to the federal government"?

•  What do you think about the president's granting of Permanent Most Favored Nation status to China?

•  What's the difference between Bush and the Democrats on the issue of farm subsidies?

•  How would you react if a Democrat president sent a $2.13 trillion budget to Congress?

•  Would you have stood for a Democrat saying "No!" to arming airline pilots?

•  What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had pushed for the federalization of airport security?

•  Are you willing to stand by and let the Bush administration cater to the environmentalists on the global warming issue?

•  What do you think about Bush's call for a Patient's Bill of Rights?

•  What one thing has Bush done that sets him apart from the Democrats?

•  It's been a year-and-a-half since Bush took office. When do we start to see a decrease in the size and scope of government? For that matter, when do we start to see even a remote indication that this administration will think about doing anything to try to limit the federal government?

This list is by no means exhaustive, but I would really be interested in some answers. Perhaps it would help shed some light on the mindset of modern compassionate conservatives.

The fact that a Republican president is governing like a Democrat isn't surprising. What's amazing to me is that there are a few select Bush supporters out there who cannot—or will not—utter one word of criticism against their president for any reason. In their minds this man is the epitome of conservatism, and to question his actions would be to question their own beliefs and cause them to wonder why they supported him in the first place.

The way I see it there can only be two explanations for this: 1) these people really and truly believe in what Bush is doing, or 2) they do not wish to face up to the real reason they voted for him — he was simply a slightly more palatable choice than Al Gore.



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To: Howlin
And what's your point? He did NOT campagin against CFR; I posted the link to HIS suggestion for reform.

Unless by "he" you're referring to someone other than George W. Bush, I just posted the evidence to contradict your assertion. During GW Bush's campaign, George Will asked him about CFR...it's all right there. I'm not going to repeat the quote since it's posted above.

481 posted on 06/05/2002 7:27:10 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: deport
Honestly, I didn't think it was worth a response.

Conservatives are the base, if 17% of the base voted for algor over Dubya Bush I will come and wax your car.

And, we may as well just give up any hope of a Conservative Government.

(No Conservative voted for algor, period. It's a conflict in terms.)

482 posted on 06/05/2002 7:27:33 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Grab the sack, verify the testicles, and start acting like a man. Bush isn't picking on you. Suck it up for God's sake. You're not that important. None of us are. What a group of narcissistic ninnies we have here. 3000 Americans are vaporized, the bad guys are still here among us plotting murder, and you dismal tots are lost in some nightmare world of state insult, oppression and grievance. How ficking selfish and annoying can you get?
483 posted on 06/05/2002 7:29:18 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever
They are also quoting from a 2000 article which by the time CFR had been passed had been re-written twice. Bush's proposal is very close to the actual bill signed.

Sigh. Bush stated he would veto unconstitutional legislation. Bush stated the CFR bill he signed had provisions which he felt were unconstitutional. You can put the rest together, I trust.

484 posted on 06/05/2002 7:29:27 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
No, you did not. You quoted me some quotes from MTP; I posted the links to his actual platform.

And you and I both know that the bill that arrived on his desk was NOT the bill Russert asked him about.

He repeatedly said campaign finance NEEDED to be reformed and he had his own ideas.

485 posted on 06/05/2002 7:30:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: all,
ex-con = NCFBTSN

One down and many more DU disruprtors to go :-)

486 posted on 06/05/2002 7:30:41 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: GingisK
how about calling some of the people in the senate obstructionist. bush isn't a saint, but i think he is doing what he can with what he has to work with. how about that homefront bill the dems tried to sneak in with all the pork?
487 posted on 06/05/2002 7:30:50 PM PDT by aged
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To: Howlin
Geoge W. Bush is NOT the president of the Conservatives of the Unitd States of America.

He is the president of ALL the people, and, much as you'd like him not to, he has to take everybody's wants into consideration.

Judging from some of the messages here, there are people who seem to think Bush was elected to be their own personal president to push their own personal, nit picky agenda and nothing else.
It's just amazing to see some of these posters blow a gasket everytime there's a report that Bush does or says something they don't personally approve of.
Spoiled brats.

488 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Stand Watch Listen
"You can't always get what you want..." Rolling Stones

We try sometimes. For me, it's all about respect, trust, and the manner in which he speaks, plain, simple with deep love for his country and her people. He respects his oath of office and he respects everyday hardworking American people who make this country work. I think that is why he wants to reach out to all. It's about his love and respect towards God, his family, the oval office.

It's about his deep sense of duty and responsibility to protect our country.

And all of these leftward things that he has approved are small when compared to the critical and urgent magnitude of our war against terrorism. America must prevail. We must win. Full Victory - nothing else. No choice in the matter. If we don't win there won't be any discussion with bin Laden about a Patient's Bill of Rights, or any discussions about rights.

489 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:05 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: Howlin

Well, you have a short memory then. And, no I am not goign to go dig up links for you.

Four that I remember off the top of my head are pulling UN abortion funding, SDI, Koyoto and his response to 9/11 (the bush doctrine)

And if debate is fine, how come the bots are rolling it up and moving on to another forum exactly?

490 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:08 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: RaceBannon
Why should Bush keep Clinton in the headlines? Why should he keep LOOKING BACKWARDS when we need to look forwards to correct the trashing the Clinton Gore years resulted in? Let Ashcroft do his job (and he is, he is pursuing them). You think they are going to show their entire hand to us? This is a President of the People, not of the Media. He is not a media puppet like Clinton was, he is using the Security afforded him properly. And because you don't see it you want to throw in the towel. You wuss.
491 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:12 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Texasforever
I'd tell them that, but they don't really care.
492 posted on 06/05/2002 7:31:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Borg Repellant
Lately I'm starting to wish that greasy moron algore HAD actually been elected, then the Republicans would have opposed the last 9 months of Constitution shredding.

That's smart strategy. You must work at a think tank.

493 posted on 06/05/2002 7:32:03 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: MJY1288
So, if someone does not agree with you then they are automatically a DU disruptor? Kinda fascist don't ya think?
495 posted on 06/05/2002 7:32:34 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: Howlin
You quoted me some quotes from MTP

So on MTP he either misspoke or misrepresented his position. Alternatively, he either misspoke or misrepresented his concerns that the final bill was unconstitutional.

You wanted the evidence, I gave it to you. If you refuse to read the plain English posted there's not much more I can do.

496 posted on 06/05/2002 7:32:36 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: ArneFufkin

I never said he was Fufkin.

Yeah, I saw a bunch back in #394. They are all over the place.

I dunno.. What are you offering?

497 posted on 06/05/2002 7:33:06 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: ex con
I have a whole list of people that I don't reply to. It is just in the last few days all this bashing has gotten out of hand! I will see how this plays out but bashing needs to stop of Bush supporters just because we like the President and that does not mean that everyone has to agree with what Pres Bush does. You can carry on a civil conversation with people and spirited debate without bashing fellow Freepers IMHO!

Whatever happened to bashing the DemocRATS -- daschle, leahy, gephardt. More time has been spent bashing Bush and his supporters than the RATS lately!

498 posted on 06/05/2002 7:34:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: NittanyLion
George Will: With regard to campaign finance, your opponent Senator McCain has made much of his pledge to ban soft money. You say that would be bad for the Republican Party. I want to see if you agree with those who say it would be bad for the First Amendment?

Number one the Republicans have always held the advantage on HARD money, not Soft. The premise of the question is incorrect. The CFR bill was re-written twice from the time of that "interview" and the final product was very much in line with Bush's campaign proposal that Howlin linked to. That included very severe restrictions on democrat’s soft money advantage and doubled the GOP advantage in hard money contributions. Nice try but no cigar.

499 posted on 06/05/2002 7:35:06 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ArneFufkin
Arne, I must say, You crack me up with your incredible wit.

These nattering nabobs have come to a gun fight with a knife.

500 posted on 06/05/2002 7:35:09 PM PDT by MJY1288
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