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How Forums Are Being Taken Over By Pro-Arab Groups, Who Flood The Forums With Hate Propaganda
Ha'aretz ^ | June, 5, 2002 | Mary Sagi-Maydan

Posted on 06/05/2002 3:36:46 AM PDT by the_second_moon

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To: Larry Lucido
Next time, avoid the ad hominems.

Don't you have a suicide bombing appointment? 7 posted on 6/5/02 5:00 AM Pacific by Poohbah

Thank you. You just proved the point of this article with your latest burst of verbal flatulence. 14 posted on 6/5/02 5:14 AM Pacific by Poohbah

Which hardly supports the "refugee" status, but tramp will do. 15 posted on 6/5/02 5:15 AM Pacific by wita

BTW, you're doing a FINE job of convincing me that any world without Islam is a better place than the present world. 20 posted on 6/5/02 5:33 AM Pacific by Poohbah

Sounds to me like you do not understand what I was talking about, and merely opened your mouth to let your ignorance into the public domain. 32 posted on 6/5/02 6:00 AM Pacific by Poohbah

He did, but he only has so much brain power in reserve. After posting his idiotic comments there wasn't enough left over to move his body around.38 posted on 6/5/02 6:10 AM Pacific by AAABEST

What side is it again that uses ad hominum arguments?

41 posted on 06/05/2002 6:23:08 AM PDT by northernwilson
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To: B Knotts
LONDON - Saudi Arabia's top Muslim cleric has called on the Islamic world to unite against a worldwide conspiracy of Hindus, Christians, Jews and secularists threatening Islamic moral values.

Gee, let's review those morals, shall we?

Brainwashing their own children form birth.

So called leaders duping ignorant followers into "martyrdom" while they sit back and reap the benefits.

Keeping your women non-sentient.

Blowing up innocent people, including innocnet children, and other Arabs (Allan ain't going to like that, Muhammed!!).

Keeping your people uneducated and in abject poverty for the sole purpose of generating more "martyrs"

Believing that "discussion" consisits of "This is my position (as beaten into me since birth) on everything. If you disagree, you are an infidel and must immediately die." Yeah, really civilized!

Purposely misinterpreting the Qur'an to promote your twisted philosophies.

Raising a population of men so sexually frustrated, that the simple glimpse of a woman's ankle sends them into a sexual frenzy (and then condemn and stone to death the woman that you attack, or have an affair with, or have any contact with when not in the presence of a close male relative).

And the list goes on.

Pardon me for laughing.

Isreal is showing considerably more restraint than I would in the identical situation.

42 posted on 06/05/2002 6:31:08 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Poohbah
Sorry to get in the way of your hate fest.
43 posted on 06/05/2002 6:35:07 AM PDT by Gerfang
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To: Lion Den Dan
lol...what a pathetic little troll you are. You are a perfect example of what the article was talking about. Go sell your lunacy somewhere else, we can smell snake oil salesmen like you before you even sit down to type.
44 posted on 06/05/2002 6:40:37 AM PDT by monday
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To: northernwilson
What side is it again that uses ad hominum arguments?

The "mindless" comment was in post #3, before all the otheres. Not defending ad hominem in general, but LDD was first out of the box, then complains when it is served right back. If he wants to challenge support for Israel, let him do so with facts rather than initiating with a rant about the "mindlessness" of those who disagree. Else, he shouldn't complain that it gets served right back at him.

45 posted on 06/05/2002 6:49:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: the_second_moon; philman_36; poohbah; AlasBabylon!; jimtorr
Gal believes that organizing and training people will take a few months. Results should become evident within half a year. He needs $580,000 to make it happen, a fraction of the cost of big ad campaigns.

Looks to me as if FReepers could make this happen sooner & cheaper. MOST Freepers, anyway. It appears to me that the site has been infiltrated by the sort of groups Gal was referring to.

46 posted on 06/05/2002 7:02:48 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: northernwilson
I am VERY interested in you posting some examples of "Zionist"Propaganda.

I think you are confusing it with the truth.

47 posted on 06/05/2002 7:09:19 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde
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To: Larry Lucido
The "mindless" comment was in post #3, before all the otheres. Not defending ad hominem in general, but LDD was first out of the box, then complains when it is served right back.

Lion Den Dan's comment about 'mindless support', whether you agree or disagree with it, was not ad hominem. It was an assertion, not a personal attack. Unfortunately, many of the responses he received were hateful personal attacks. We can judge who is flooding this forum with hate propaganda. It isn't pro-Arab groups.

48 posted on 06/05/2002 7:09:39 AM PDT by faintpraise
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To: northernwilson
You can only debate with somebody who is intellectually honest.
49 posted on 06/05/2002 7:09:54 AM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Poohbah
An oldie but goodie thread

Palestine Report has ax to grind w/ FR Website

This month's axe, www.freerepublic.com, was recommended by a reader who says he was angered by the anti-Palestinian, anti-Muslim posts he saw frequently appearing on the site. After frequent objections, he himself was banned from it...please register and post , the source of many summer, 2001 pro Palestinian and anti-Israel freepers.

50 posted on 06/05/2002 7:20:39 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Dales
Another one today:

***PHOTOS*** Israel bus terror attack

:-(

51 posted on 06/05/2002 7:26:18 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: the_second_moon
For the last several months, virtually every Usenet group has been getting regular posts titled "News the Kikes don't want you to hear."

It's about time we noticed the organized nature of the effort. Al-Qaeda has a LARGE amount of support in the American Muslim community, and we need to grow up and acknowledge that.

52 posted on 06/05/2002 7:26:42 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: the_second_moon
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53 posted on 06/05/2002 7:27:44 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: B Knotts
. . . anti-Western nutcases who spew hatred

Democratic Undergound?

54 posted on 06/05/2002 7:29:44 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: philman_36
I've got two words for you...refugee camp!

I've got two words for Lyer's den as well, but I'll not repeat them in this forum. LOL

55 posted on 06/05/2002 7:33:04 AM PDT by meyer
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To: faintpraise
It could very easily be read as labeling anyone who strongly supports Israel as 'mindless'. I read it as an broad insult, as did several of the respondants.
56 posted on 06/05/2002 7:50:18 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: faintpraise
We can judge who is flooding this forum with hate propaganda. It isn't pro-Arab groups.

Very true. I've lost count of the number of times Arabs in general have been called cockroaches and other de-humanizing names by the pro-Zionist crowd on FR, but even the mildist criticism of Israel is often greeted with cries of nazi or other ad hominum stuff. I think these folks should take a good look in the mirror.

57 posted on 06/05/2002 7:50:21 AM PDT by northernwilson
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To: Amelia
Only after Gal had visited several sites over several days did he cotton on.

Has someone been >>>sharp intake of breath<<< lurking?

58 posted on 06/05/2002 7:56:05 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Lion Den Dan
Venom? You ain't seen venom yet. I got a place that sells this stuff by the case! (And it tastes better than Red Bull, too!)
59 posted on 06/05/2002 7:57:49 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Amelia
"I noticed that several big forums in which hundreds of thousands of people participate are being taken over by anti-Israeli and pro-Arab groups, who flood the forums with hate propaganda," Gal says.
Someone has been lurking. /Goldilocks spoof
60 posted on 06/05/2002 8:04:31 AM PDT by philman_36
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