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Students Hooked on 'Ebonics' Are Being Groomed for Failure
INSIGHT magazine ^ | June 3, 2002 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/04/2002 9:16:59 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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To: ex con
are you claiming that the founders walked around speaking french?

Some people here have the uncanny and annoying propensity to misconstrue anything. Sometimes I think it's deliberate just to pick a fight. Read what I said and don't impart anything more.

I still think anyone who thinks the founders spoke with today's southern dialect has been brainwashed by Southern pride. They came from freakin' England.

101 posted on 06/04/2002 12:10:08 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: arm958
And Trevor-Roper was a leftist British historian!
102 posted on 06/04/2002 12:13:41 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: maxwell
15) Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to cook barbecue. This will get your a$$ shot (right after it is kicked). You're lucky we let you come down here at all. Criticize our barbecue, and you will go home in a pine box.. . . Minus your a$$.

This here Damn Yankee challenges you and your slack jaw to a BBQ cook off. For money. American money, not confederate dollars. Loser to publicly proclaim the greatness of the winner, and when this Damn Yankee wins, you, the southern hick, will have to wear a tshirt to a NASCAR race or other site of southern entertainment that proclaims in large print...

I Got My Ass Kicked In A BBQ Cook-off By A Damn Yankee

Are you up to the challenge?

103 posted on 06/04/2002 12:14:20 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
I love ebonics. All of the practioners are removing themselves from competition with me for jobs today and with my children in the future.

Maybe they won't be competing with you for jobs, but they will be competing with your dependants for their upkeep via the welfare state.

104 posted on 06/04/2002 12:17:24 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDieTryin
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To: tdadams
I still think anyone who thinks the founders spoke with today's southern dialect has been brainwashed by Southern pride. They came from freakin' England.

Ever listen to Senator Robert Byrd give one of his pompous oratories? Listen closely to his enunciation. I think he is the "missing link" between our English speaking forefathers and modern day Southern.

105 posted on 06/04/2002 12:18:12 PM PDT by arm958
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To: Phantom Lord
you, the southern hick, will have to wear a tshirt to a NASCAR race or other site of southern entertainment...

For a minute there I thought I was going to have to correct you. I thought you were going to say southern - ahem - culture.

106 posted on 06/04/2002 12:19:58 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Phantom Lord
...show him the 'police beat' section and drill into his head that if his name ever appeared in there it would be an embarassment to himself and especially the family. It instilled in him a fear of having "his name in there" when he was growing up.
Here's a poem that has been passed on to our family members.

YOUR NAME...

You got it from your father,
twas the best he had to give.
And right gladly he bestowed it.
It's yours, the while you live.

You may lose the watch he gave you
and another you may claim.
But remember, when you're tempted,
to be careful of his name.

It was fair the day you got it,
and a worthy name to bear.
When he took it from his father,
there was no dishonor there.

Through the years he proudly wore it,
to his father he was true
And that name was clean and spotless
when he passed it on to you.

Oh, there's much that he has given
that he values not at all.
He has watched you break your playthings
in the days when you were small.

You have lost the knife he gave you
and you've scattered many a game.
But you'll never hurt your father
if you're careful with his name.

It is yours to wear forever,
yours to wear the while you life.
Yours, perhaps some distant morning,
another boy to give.

And you'll smile as did your father,
with a smile that all can share.
If a clean name and a good name
you are giving him to wear.

and another version

Your Name...

You got it from your father,
It was all he had to give.
So it's yours to use and cherish
For as long you may live.
If you lose the watch he gave you,
It can always be replaced.
But a black mark on you name, Son,
Can never be erased.
It was clean the day you took it.
And a worthy name to bear,
When he got it from his father,
There was no dishonor there.
So make sure you guard it wisely,
After all is said and done,
You'll be glad the name is spotless,
When you give it to your son.


107 posted on 06/04/2002 12:21:30 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Phantom Lord
I Got My Ass Kicked In A BBQ Cook-off By A Damn Yankee

LMFAO!!! Now this here's where the fat hits the fire, bud... Ain't nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wants to eat nothin' ol' Max "cooks" up... I know mah limitations and whatnot and that there's one of 'em. I do cook a mean instant-microwavable-artificial-butter-and-bacon-flavored grits, though I do get confused about how much beer to add sometimes...

And I've been using duct tape to good advantage for some time, so don't call me slackjawed or I'll kick yer a$$.

108 posted on 06/04/2002 12:22:07 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: tdadams;ex con
...the southern dialect, which is far closer to the original language the founders spoke...

I'm currently reading the biography John Adams. When you read the many letters written between John and Abigail Adams, you get a good sense of the language of the time. Also, try reading The Federalist and compare it to Thomas Paine's Common Sense to see the Founders' different styles of writing at the time.

The question is: how different was spoken English from written English.

-PJ

109 posted on 06/04/2002 12:23:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: tdadams; Phantom Lord; RikaStrom; xsmommy; christine11; WhyisaTexasGirlinPA; TxBec; Texan5
For a minute there I thought I was going to have to correct you. I thought you were going to say southern - ahem - culture.

Yeah well yer just green-envied 'cause everything's bigger down here. Ain't I right, belles. Bwahaha...

110 posted on 06/04/2002 12:25:07 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: Poohbah
Sorry, but to get the true flavor of Ironics, you have to visit the Old Sod, preferably Galway.

And just where do you think me ma was born?

111 posted on 06/04/2002 12:38:07 PM PDT by Oschisms
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To: maxwell
You sir should be ashamed of yourself. Micorwave grits! Do you admit this to your friends at the bait shop or at family reunions? I would venture to say no.
112 posted on 06/04/2002 12:42:54 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: maxwell
My wife had surgery on her foot 3 weeks ago. Do to the dressing and the fact that pins are sticking out of it, she can not get it wet for another 2 weeks.

To combat this problem and keep her clean I put her foot in a garbage bag and then wrap it in duck tape.

I will put my duct tape skills up against yours. How about that.

Though you don't know him, my father is the Duck Tape Master. He owns virtually no tools and live by his motto that "If you can't fix it with duck tape, spray paint and a hammer, you need a new one."

113 posted on 06/04/2002 12:45:00 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: maxwell
LOL! I like that one, mad Max!
115 posted on 06/04/2002 1:20:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: parsifal
"I think teachers should be able to communicate in Ebonics"

That reminds me of the bit in the movie "Airplane" when a black guy gets sick and no one can understand what his friend is saying, Mrs. Cleaver (from Leave it to Beaver) jumps up and says "I speak jive". LOL

117 posted on 06/04/2002 1:46:33 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: kevinjdeanna, nonliberal, PurVirgo, Tomalak, WillaJohns, GADIST64, NJ Freeper, Future Snake Eate
ping
118 posted on 06/04/2002 2:21:20 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I had 2 catlacks, but I rectum both.

My parole officer say if I miss disappointment, I in trouble!

I gave my girlfriend the crabs, and the hotel everyone.

If I pay my alimony, I'll have no money foreclose.

119 posted on 06/04/2002 2:22:06 PM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: Maceman
Whatever it is, I found it beautiful and believe it definitely worth preserving ...

While I'm sure you are correct in this case, the same is NOT true of "ebonics." It is not beautiful, nor should it be preserved. It's a perversion of standard English, pure laziness on the part of the speaker. Fine when you're just hanging out with friends, but hardly anyway to communicate with the majority of people.

Blacks are just destroying themselves with this idiocy, and they won't listen to anyone else on the matter.

120 posted on 06/04/2002 2:28:40 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater
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