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NBA Voodoo: David Stern Fixes the Playoffs
A Different Drummer ^ | 5 June 2002 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/04/2002 7:37:53 AM PDT by mrustow

Article argues that NBA Commissioner David Stern wanted so much for the Los Angeles Lakers to extend their two-consecutive NBA championships to a "threepeat," that he fixed the Western Conference Finals against the Sacramento Kings.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ccrm; davidstern; kobebryant; losangeleslakers; mikebibby; nba; newjerseynets; officiating; sacramentokings; sportsfixing; voodoo
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To: diamond6
To all you Queens' fans who will probably be singing a conspiracy from now until the next millenium, I'm going to say good bye and good riddance. Hope you have fun watching the Lakers stomp the Nets. I'm enjoying it right now. I'll talk to you guys later about tonight's game (on another post).
421 posted on 06/05/2002 7:01:40 PM PDT by diamond6
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To: diamond6
How do I know you're not a Queens' fan?

What, I'm supposed to be a closet Kings fan, trying to pass for ... what?

You've sure made this your rally cry. What are you a doctor? I can tell you, I routinely eat up lying witnesses.

If you work the same way as a liar, er, lawyer, your typical closing will have you tell the jury: "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you may safely disregard everything my opponent has said, because only a crook would disagree with me."

While were on the subject, it's you who are perpetuating lies, by posting such an assinine story and then trying to support it with half truths and innuendo.

What lies, half-truths, and innuendoes? Are ad hominem attacks all you are capable of?

You know how I roast witnesses when I'm questioning them? I confront them with documentation that is indisputable - just like I've provided you with indisputable facts that you are incapable of debating.

Claiming to have provided "indisputable facts" and actually having done so, are two very different things. You have indisputably engaged in bluster, filibuster, and ball-buster; but unless shouting down people counts, you have not argued a case.

Why do I continue to post? Because you're no better than the lying RATS, who continue to espouse myths that poison ignorant people's minds.

I want to know what state you practice in. If you could pass the bar exam -- assuming you did, which is a big stretch -- then I could walk in off the street, with no preparation, and ace it.

422 posted on 06/05/2002 7:16:17 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the ping, but I gave up on stick and ball sports when the various players started shining about the money they make.

Also, the price of Bucs tickets went out of sight, and then I saw the "deal" made by the Glazers with the city of tampa, and that really did it.

I hope all of these guys die a pauper.

423 posted on 06/05/2002 7:42:55 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: mrustow
I am late to the discussion. I read the article, but I have not read all the posts. I have had a dish of some sort since 1982,and my favorite team of all time was the Doug Moe coached Denver Nuggets. I like offensive old ABA style basketball. This year the Nets caught my eye and I watched nearly every one of their games. They are fun to watch. I was never much of a Laker fan, but I have always been a big Jerry West fan. When Phil Jackson more or less sent West into exile, then I have rooted against the Lakers.

I cannot agree with the article, although I abhor the over marketing of the NBA by Stern and his administration. And I would not put it by him and his administration in affecting the outcome. My problem is the Kings had a great opportunity to win Game 7, but they withered in the fourth. Chris Webber seemed to be having flashbacks from the NCAA championship game. Doug Christie's inability to make a shot was pathetic. The Kings inability to make free throws in Game 7 was devastating. I think like the writer that the Nets may be overmatched, but I believe in magic, and if the Nets could find themselves in the fourth quarter of an elimination game of the Lakers, I am sure they will not collapse like Sacramento did.

424 posted on 06/05/2002 7:59:39 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: mrustow
David Stern Fixes the Playoffs
And I don't care
David Stern Fixes the Playoffs
And I don't care
David Stern Fixes the Playoffs
And I don't care

Cause Twins stomp Cleveland 23-2!!!

425 posted on 06/05/2002 8:04:50 PM PDT by Valin
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To: cicero's_son; BnBlFlag; sonofagun; Cavalry; rko1933; Camrad; Hammach; teenager; wheels...
fyi
426 posted on 06/05/2002 8:23:25 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
The NBA is slightly above the level of the WWF. One would be amazed at the lack of power the individual owners have.

I take professional basketball as seriously as I do a Palestinian promise.

427 posted on 06/05/2002 8:48:42 PM PDT by lavrenti
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To: lavrenti
The NBA is slightly above the level of the WWF. One would be amazed at the lack of power the individual owners have.

I take professional basketball as seriously as I do a Palestinian promise.

LOL.

428 posted on 06/06/2002 8:11:41 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Valin
23-2?! For real?
429 posted on 06/06/2002 8:12:11 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Biblebelter
When Phil Jackson more or less sent West into exile, then I have rooted against the Lakers.

Is that what happenned? IMO, Phil Jackson is the most overrated coach in NBA history. He has never turned around a loser, and built it into a winner (see Byron Scott); rather, he has always had teams handed to him that already had the dominant player of their time, plus another superstar almost as good, and which were ready to win championships.

His wit is also overrated; I remember how then-Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy (who I think, BTW, is a much more resourceful coach), himself no Groucho Marx, drove Jackson crazy by calling him, "Big Chief Triangle."

430 posted on 06/06/2002 8:18:50 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: VinnyTex
I didn't see any fixing in game 7. I saw some rather poor calls, but they were balanced. The worst, most blatant fixing was in the fouth quarter of game 6. There was also some fixing against the Lakers in game 2 and game 5.

5v8 did not decide Western Conference Championship, it just prolonged the series. Lakers are the champions. The Kings beat themselves and the Lakers showed up to watch the Kings choke in game seven.

What is scandal here is that game six made it so painfully obvious. It cheapens the NBA product. Standards need to be established, referees need to be "called out" in public by the league.

Until the league makes changes live with, deal with it, great teams can beat 5v8. Lakers did in game 1. Kings did in game 3.

Go Nets!

431 posted on 06/06/2002 12:53:28 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: scottiewottie
Go Nets, they don't stand a chance (refs will fix the games)! You've seen for yourself when the Nets pulled within 4 points with less than 2 minutes, the call that broke their backs. You know, that stupid blocking foul which commentator agreed wasn't. Then immediately after the Nets were going to score becuase the Lakers had their hands up their butts the ref stops the game (shot clock).

Unbelieveable, but the officials did determine or hinder the Nets only chance to win after a great comeback. Forget about it, Stern has made his choice.

This will be a quick series, since it will not have high ratings. Sorry to break the news.

432 posted on 06/06/2002 1:16:32 PM PDT by BushCountry
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To: BushCountry
I agree, there is no way that a 390 pound giant gets only one foul call. The fix was there. To add to your conspiracy fun, follow the money, count the number of commercials you see that have Kobe or Shaq in them. Now count the ones that have Kidd in them.

But the Lakers think it will be an easy series. The lakers could have buried them by 30 points, but for some reason backed off.

The Nets need to play Kings style, attack Shaq on offensive and defense, make the boy sweat 20 pounds a quarter. Play a faster tempo, cut off passes to and coming from Shaq and Kobe. Byron Scott learned coaching from some of the best. Nets can beat the fix, but it won't be easy.

Realistically I think the Nets are one or two years away from being a legitimate challenge for the Western Champs. But this is the year of upsets. 5v8 is real, live with it, deal with it. Go Nets!

433 posted on 06/06/2002 1:44:11 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: scottiewottie
My plan for the Nets to win is different. Solid defense and a full court press most of the game. East players are better defenders and need to play their strength. They really did have them on the ropes for a while, the Lakers didn't seem to handle the press with grace.
434 posted on 06/06/2002 2:21:12 PM PDT by BushCountry
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To: BushCountry
What I like about the Nets is they don't flop and cry to the refs on every single play like the Kings did. New Jersey showed a lot of class yesterday. The Kings simply had to rely on tricks to mask their lack of talent.
435 posted on 06/06/2002 2:24:17 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: RabidBartender
Count 'em! Vlade may be the best flopper, but count them all, Lakers flopped frequently. Kobe, Fox, and Horry are great floppers. It is a defensive tactic called positioning oneself and selling it hard if you have to.

Watch Kidd, he has speed, he has postition... Oh that has to hurt! Kidd is a great flopper too.

436 posted on 06/06/2002 2:52:53 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: BushCountry
Nets defense was good. But you need to make Shaq sweat. Shaq wants to be in every play, make him be in every play. Make him react and make him pay for it.
437 posted on 06/06/2002 3:04:33 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: RabidBartender
Nets lost 30 games in the regular season. Now the Nets have lost just as many games as Sacramento in the post season, and that mostly against an inferior Eastern Conference. Nets need some tricks.
438 posted on 06/06/2002 3:13:44 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: mrustow
Ask and you shall receive!
Published Jun 5, 2002
The hits came in all forms. And came all game long.
Some were bloopers, a pitcher's nightmare. Some were seeing-eye singles. A couple got by the defense for an extra base or two.
Several were legitimate, well-struck hits. Some were rockets that cleared the infield and outfield.
They came from everywhere. From leadoff hitter Jacque Jones to the struggling David Ortiz to ninth-place hitter Luis Rivas, who was returning from a two-month stint on the disabled list.
It added up to destruction as the Twins romped over Cleveland 23-2 Tuesday night in one of the most impressive victories in club history. Club records were set for margin of victory (21) and hits in a game (25).

"It was enjoyable," designated hitter Ortiz said. "It was crazy. Especially against a team that plays so good against us. We needed to show everyone we can do this."
A crowd of 14,029 was tuckered out by the end of the game from rising out of their seats so frequently to cheer.
The list of superlatives begins with catcher A.J. Pierzynski, who had four hits and was a homer away from the cycle when he batted twice in the seventh -- but managed only a single and a ground out.
"Yeah, when I was on deck, some people were yelling at me," Pierzynski said. "It was a tough situation. You can't go up there and try to hit a home run. And me, I can't hit home runs anyway."
The Twins' seventh, eighth and ninth hitters combined to hit a astonishing 12-for-18 with 12 runs scored. That included a 4-for-6 performance by Rivas, who also scored five runs and drove in five runs. It was his first game after missing 46 games because of a fractured bone near his left wrist. Dustan Mohr, Corey Koskie and Jacque Jones each hit homers.
"The linescore said it all," manager Ron Gardenhire said. "Everything we swung at, we hit on the nose. Even the choppers fell in."

The Twins did their most damage in the seventh, in which they scored 10 runs, a club record for that inning. Koskie led off the inning with his fifth homer and nine consecutive batters reached base before Koskie struck out. Bobby Kielty, who replaced Torii Hunter in the seventh, doubled twice in the inning.
For Cleveland, it was humiliation revisited. It lost to Anaheim 21-2 on April 30.
"They beat the hell out of us," Cleveland manager Charlie Manuel said. "There wasn't much managing going on out there. All you could do is sit there and watch."

The Twins went out of the way to not sound disrespectful about the outcome. They remembered how they felt when they lost to Kansas City 16-3 on April 17 and figured Cleveland was feeling twice as worse.
"We weren't jumping around that much on the bench," said Jones, who hit his 11th homer. "We didn't want to show the other team up and I thought we did a good job of doing that."
Righthander Rick Reed (6-2), making his first start since leaving his outing May 29 because of a sore neck, went seven innings and gave up two runs on three hits.
His only mistakes were to Jim Thome, who crushed two homers to give him 17 for the season. Reed has given up only four earned runs in his past 13 2/3 innings against Cleveland -- all four runs coming on three homers by Thome.
Reed was almost forgotten Tuesday, because the Twins were more worried about an angry Cleveland coming to the park today.
"Unfortunately, it counts as one win," Gardenhire said, "and Cleveland is not going to be happy about it."

-- La Velle E. Neal III isat lneal@startribune.com .

439 posted on 06/06/2002 8:32:10 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
Wow, V.! You don't kid around. Thanks.
440 posted on 06/06/2002 8:52:33 PM PDT by mrustow
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