It's the money, they are building the need for better climate models.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Kyoto was about transfers of money from those who produce to those who don't.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ok, let's save the money and stick with the bad models. A penny saved is a penny earned.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple
Looks like they're already complaining. Bush will simply present the question of "adapt with new technology, or do it their way and destroy the economy," and the Dems will be TOAST.
8 posted on
06/04/2002 6:36:31 AM PDT by
hchutch
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The drum beat now begins, "Bush knows about dangers of global warming but chooses to do nothing".
But guys W is only following the dictates of the report which recommends adapting.
Heh Heh.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The SKY is FALLING, the sky is falling.....
Oh, wait, according to history, it's fallen before...and yet....we're all still here to listen to another round of this bunk science rhetoric....imagine that.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But when you look at maps of rising sea levels, a lot of Florida disappears.
Maybe I missed it...
but is there a map showing locations where the sea level has already been rising
and submerging coastal areas?
All I can remember is hearing about the one island in the South Pacific that got lots
of press about it being lost to rising sea levels.
But then later I heard reports that this simply was bogus...and a rouse (sp?) to get
the islanders "sanctuary" (=citizenship + welfare dole) in a real country (New Zealand?).
I'm a global warming skeptic, but if the map of newly submerged coastal areas
is available, I'd like to see it.
12 posted on
06/04/2002 6:44:09 AM PDT by
VOA
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Karl Rove needs to be fired. This was a really destructive move. I can see nothing positive in it for Bush in the long run.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh, no! Now the Orange County Register is part of the VRWC!
27 posted on
06/04/2002 8:06:51 AM PDT by
B Knotts
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Posted by VRWC_minion to Pokey78 On News/Activism Jun 4 10:25 AM #112 of 116
Sorry folks. Like it or not we lost the debate regarding whether global warming exists. The average person believes it to be so. The problem with the existing terms of debate for both conservatives and liberals is we always missed the logical fallacy that the environuts were passing off. Namely that the Globe is warming THEREFORE we must sign Kyoto treaty. Bush's approach on this put the debate against signing the treaty on much better footing that the old construct. It basically says OK so if global warming is caused by the minor amounts of man's actions what possible changes can man make (given that we have hundred years of carbon release) that would reverse the trend ? Its impossible to prove even with logical fallacies that anything will reverse the trend short of a complete ban on all releases. But we must do something cry the environuts. Yes, Bush says we will study on how best to adapt to the coming changes. And oh yes, we conservatives will need to employ you scientists who have formerly worked for the environuts to come up with recommendations as to how best to adapt. Bush has accepted that we lost the first argument but has retreated to a firmer place and at the same time has opened the opportunity to hire away the paid scientific shills.
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Rush is referring to Bush as GWALGORE!! I thought GW was a true believing Christian and if he is, he is the strangest believer I've ever seen. Where is God in his proclamation that the earth is in peril?? Who created this universe,AL GORE and the liberal wackoes or God, who has in His divine wisdom,protected it since He created it????HMMMMM
30 posted on
06/04/2002 8:09:42 AM PDT by
GeorgeHL
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
GWB is working the system...this a great opening for pushing more nuclear power plant construction !!
I love it !!
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!
Molon Labe !!
33 posted on
06/04/2002 8:22:21 AM PDT by
blackie
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave
"The ones who are 24/7 enviral whackos will never vote for GW..."That's very true, Gramps!
Thanks for the ping, Ernest.
It's going to be interesting to listen to Rush today. I wonder if he's done his homework yet.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bush approved massive new funding for computer power to analyze global climate last year. Eventually the American model will be the best possible.
As to adapting to climate change, well, we will have to anyway. The lawyers might be looking for a fresh "tobacco settlement," but the "adapt or die" policy will stymie that action. Everyone has driven the green, but no one is marking their ball.
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