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LIMBAUGH RIPS BUSH WHITE HOUSE OVER GLOBAL WARMING 'FLIP-FLOP'
Drudge Report ^ | 6/3/02 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 06/03/2002 10:04:46 AM PDT by hchutch

Just the headline


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; drudge; limbaugh
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To: B Knotts
You said a mouthful.
1,101 posted on 06/04/2002 5:29:40 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: truthkeeper
Without reading all the comments here - what is being ignored is Rush's evident need for a ratings boost. Evidently he's slipping - I've stopped listening to him as I'm sure others have done also.
1,102 posted on 06/04/2002 5:32:16 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: sneakypete
Fox is going to eventually have to do a special,titled "When Bush-Bots Attack!".

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

1,103 posted on 06/04/2002 5:36:45 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: hchutch
hchutch, what you have described, and perfectly, is simply the political process. Picking your fights and digging in your heels for the long haul is exactly what politics is about.

George W. Bush is a politician, and a good one. Moreover, he is unique as a politician in that he is among the very few who are persons of high character and integrity.

You are so right: this is gut-check time. People need to figure out what their end-game is and go from there. If they'd rather have Rats in power than support a good man who, right now, is the leader of the party of good ideas, so be it.

There's not a person on this earth who could meet the expectations of some of the people here. It's just not possible, not humanly, not politically, not geopolitically. And if an American president did have enough power to enact or impose every single policy he desired, without having to compromise with either the opposing party or world leaders or whomever, then Freepers would be very sad indeed. We'd be living in a dictatorship and, even worse, one in which a Rat as well as a Republican could be king.

1,104 posted on 06/04/2002 5:42:51 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Lancey Howard
I'm confused about this strategy, such as it is. Ceding the point to the doom-and-gloomers, while taking no action, helps the administration how? That can't be a political plus. In fact, what it does is give envirowackos ammunition, while simultaneously alienating conservatives.

Another brilliant Karl Rove strategy!

I think the president would have better luck just being himself. He's basically a decent guy, and people like him. He doesn't need to do all this "triangulation" garbage.

1,105 posted on 06/04/2002 5:45:58 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: joanie-f; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; Howlin; JohnHuang2
I think you have nailed it there. The key word, IMHO, is "stealth." We cannot do things above the radar horizon, or the media "air defenses" will do us what they did to Gingrich and the GOP in 1995. So, what we have to do is operate via "Stealth", reducing the amount of warning they have until...

BLAM!!

Our agenda is in there. It is really a conservative using Bill Clinton's techniques AGAINST the Clinton party. The irony is quite delicious, IMHO. I have never liked CLinton's morals or politics, but I have ADMIRED his political skill, and felt that there were things we could learn from it. It looks like Bush has begun to apply some of the techniques.

1,106 posted on 06/04/2002 5:46:24 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: The Kid
The report outlines some specific potential scenarios, but it carefully states all of its predictions in probabilistic terms and reiterates the National Academy of Sciences' conclusion that specific predictions about climate change are, as yet, impossible. More importantly, the report notes (and the Times acknowledges) that global warming is likely to increase agricultural and forest productivity...

[snort!] It'll take a hell of a lot of "global warming" to return Greenland to the idyllic farming country the Vikings found and settled! >:p

I note that many of the so-called scientists now screaming about global warming were, when I was in high school, issuing dire warnings of a new Ice Age by 2025! All of the global warming models are bullshit. Not one of them can "predict" the documented past! Taken in either direction, they all run off into catastrophic climate changes. They are bullshit, and the scientists who support them are spouting bullshit because that's what gets them all that nice grant money. The New Ice Age is out of political favor! Long live Global Warming, the new favorite!

1,107 posted on 06/04/2002 5:48:26 AM PDT by Silverdrake
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To: B Knotts
I think the president would have better luck just being himself. He's basically a decent guy, and people like him. He doesn't need to do all this "triangulation" garbage.

I agree completely.

1,108 posted on 06/04/2002 5:54:49 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: caddie
Talk about stinking up the joint with crapola strategy, I think the idea that Rush & gang can "push" Bush to the right must take the prize for half-baked, hair-brained, training-wheeled schemes.

All Rush is doing is alienating many of his listeners and certainly marginalizing his former influence. When W has 70% approval ratings, is making historic inroads into traditionally Rat voter segments (soccer moms, Hispanics, et al.), do you really think some blather about, truly, the nuances and syntax of a stupid U.N. global warming report is going to cause the administration to even notice, much less change directions?

Maybe it's because I'm an inside-the-beltway type, but it sure seems like some folks don't know the definition of "politics." What does not work in politics is what Rush and gang are doing now (Sean included, although he often seems more reasoned).

All during the primary Rush, for example, was there exhorting people to take the long view, not to nitpick every little political detail, not to support someone who could not win (a change, BTW, from Rush's stance in the previous presidential election when he said people ought to support Pat Buchanan on principle and winning be damned!).

Maybe Rush wanted Bush to be Pat Buchanan. In which case---no offense, Pat---the world would be a very different place right now, and I don't think Rush & gang would be any the happier for it in the end.

1,109 posted on 06/04/2002 5:58:06 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: johnnyb93
You forgot to take your meds. You'd better find the nurse on duty.......I think her name is Ratchett.
1,110 posted on 06/04/2002 5:59:38 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: rintense
I had the same question during the ragging on Bush (by Rush & the Rushbots) that he was ruining the world by not specifically calling Arafat a terrorist. I said, What is the Rush Doctrine? Let's say Bush does call Arafat a terrorist. Then what do you want him to do differently than he is doing now?

Silence, silence, silence.

1,111 posted on 06/04/2002 6:01:38 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
I voted for Pat Buchanan!
1,112 posted on 06/04/2002 6:03:29 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Reagan Man
Don't forget:

*dismantled that NAG-feminazi organization that used to ride PC-herd on the military, DACOWITS;

*has begun the process of reversing Bubba's dumb women in combat policies;

*axed unnecessary, pork-barrel weapons programs and is taking the heat for it;

I could go on . . . I am very sorry that we are not all rejoicing at what we got instead of bitchin' about what we don't got.

It wasn't long ago we had a pervert and predator in the Oval Office. But some people seem more in a tizzy about a dumb restatement of the obvious on global warming.

Someone mentioned this story was nowhere, zero on the establishment media today. Hmm, donchathink if Bush was truly caught in a Barnum-and-Bailey flip flop the talking heads would be foaming at the mouth today? Guess they read the report, not the NYT, and decided, nope, won't go there.

1,113 posted on 06/04/2002 6:09:40 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Twodees; oldvike
Actually, I suspect most of them of having been Clinton sycophants

Excuse me, but do your 2 D's stand for 'Dumb and dumber?'

The reason that we support President Bush so fervently is that he is the polar opposite of Xlinton. Morality as opposed to debauchery, honesty as opposed to deceit. I think I can speak for a large number of so-called Bush-bots when I say that we are the group who hated what Clinton did to our country the most.

You seem to hate Bush more than you hated Clinton, and take it out on those of us who have respect for this fine man.

btw, if the DITL thread bothers you both, nobody's making you go there.

1,114 posted on 06/04/2002 6:16:38 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Common Tator
Controversy does not sell seats to the Rush Limbaugh program because his value/stock in trade has always been that he says what we already are thinking. People tune in and say, yeah, finally, someone is saying out loud what I've known all along!

Further, Rush's value as an entertainer was that he brought optimism and hope. We are at war now and all he does is bitch. I'm not suggesting he not speak his mind, but I'm also not suggesting I have to listen to him moan over dumb doo-doo.

We have so much to be thankful in having a man of such high character as Bush to lead our country right now, why can't we focus at least some on the positive?

The Rats got slammed when they came out trying to attack Bush for dumb doo-doo---why does Rush think he can do it and not alienate millions?

1,115 posted on 06/04/2002 6:17:13 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Pokey78
Re Sean Hannity saying Bush made a strategic miscalculation . . .

Who is Sean Hannity? I love these guys who think because they have a mic in front of them or a camera on them that they have become political strategic experts. They don't even have a clue as to what information the administration had that was part of the decision-making, strategy process.

Sean is still more listenable than Rush these days, because his analysis is more reasoned and incorporates more of the true political context, but he should be careful not to go down the whining road.

1,116 posted on 06/04/2002 6:22:37 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
There's not a person on this earth who could meet the expectations of some of the people here.

One of the truest non-religious statements I've ever seen on the FR.

1,117 posted on 06/04/2002 6:22:57 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: truthkeeper
When I heard that Bushie is playing the enviro wacko angle a question came to my mind and that was:

What is worse, having the Goron or Bush as President?

Is Bush out of his mind on this one? It is funny how a lot of you are covering for Bush. Bush, like his daddy is a NWO guy and if you all ever read about the NWO types you know what is going on. Everybody around Bush is a internationalist, NWO type.

We can now make the analogy that Bush is to Gore and all the other leftists as Socialism is to Communism. Similarities being, you get the same end result with either party, just with one you get there a little faster.

I live by Ronald Reagan's golden Rule that though shalt not speak evil of another Republican but what Bush is doing is really making me almost embarrassed to be affiliated with the Republican Party.

As a party, we have to get back to Conservative principles because that is what makes us stand above the Commies in the other party. We have to dispose of the Rockefeller Republicans in our party; out them for who they truly are and get back to doing what is best for our Constitutional, Representative Republic.

1,118 posted on 06/04/2002 6:24:24 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: B Knotts
I think the president would have better luck just being himself. He's basically a decent guy, and people like him. He doesn't need to do all this "triangulation" garbage.

That I agree with 100% !
I think Bush at this point is cleaning off his desk. And I think that merely sweeping this "global warming" crap into the circular file would give the leftist goofballs ammo to say Bush "doesn't care about...", "won't address...", etc. They may have been too clever by half on this one, or maybe the Gray Old Whore is as devious an arm of the DNC as everybody always thought.

1,119 posted on 06/04/2002 6:25:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: concerned about politics
The 2000 election was close. It may be again because people vote seriously for those free tax payer handouts. If Bush keeps screwing his base over the way he is, he could very well be history.

The stealth attack is working. I know people that are now watching FOX and seeing the politics in a very different light. They were totally unaware that the major media were do dominated by the democrats and the "hate" republican agenda.

1,120 posted on 06/04/2002 6:28:15 AM PDT by cinFLA
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