Missiles smuggled into U.S.

Washington Times ^ | 5/31/02 | Bill Gertz

[kattracks]

The U.S. government has alerted airlines and law enforcement agencies that new intelligence indicates that Islamic terrorists have smuggled shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles into the United States.

Classified intelligence reports circulated among top Bush administration policymakers during the past two weeks identified the missiles as Russian-made SA-7 surface-to-air missiles or U.S.-made Stinger anti-aircraft missiles obtained covertly in Afghanistan, said intelligence officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

[DoughtyOne]

[CELTICGAEL (Celt)]

willyone said "Most of the Free Republic crowd has been blaming the Navy. That is the fact. Don't try changing you story now."

Hey willyone, here is the fact with me. Are you ready? News Flash!!! I have not and do not blame the Navy!!!!!! Whats next, you going to tell me to take off or is put on my tinfoil hat?

[maestro]

UR# 2)

'And in this paragraph, the missiles may not be in the United States.'
'So were are the missiles?'

??....Still in "High-Tech" storage in Canada and Cuba???

/sarcasm?

[aristeides]

Here's confirmation: other people heard what you did on Fox.

[aristeides]

If it is true that the government has now decided to let out the truth about TWA 800, I think a lot of heads will roll. I wonder how the Clintons will explain this one.

[Semper Paratus]

why shoot down a landing aircraft? A fully loaded 747 leaving for the Far East would be the ideal target.

What about the Shuttle. An SA-7, Stinger has a range of 3- 5 miles and up to 13,000 ft. altitude.
Launchs are always televised, one is going up today.

[aristeides]

Yes, I wonder what _Jim will say. Hey, come to think of it, I haven't noticed any postings from him lately.

[Steve0113]

Flight 800 was shot down. you know it, i know it, and look at the stats on this missile. Why were we lied to?

Wasn't a certain election coming up in a few months?

[Quilla]

Besides, how would you cover up the shootdown when you have thousands of people from the NTSB, FBI, FAA, and Boeing involved in the investigation.

Sir,

I concede to your MANPAD premise as I wouldn't know a MANPAD if I was sitting on one. Are you saying there is not a single surface to air missle available to terrorists that could have shot down TWA800? I have never formulated a theory as to what caused TWA800; however, Stephanopoulos' unrehearsed and almost panicked comment early in the day on September 11 leaves me wondering:

"There are facilities in the White House, not the normal situation room, which everyone has seen in the past, has seen pictures of. There is a second situation room, behind the primary situation room, which has video conferencing capabilities. The director of the Pentagon, the defense chief, can speak from a national military command center at the Pentagon. The Secretary of State can speak from the State Department, the president from wherever he is, and they'll have this capability for video conferencing throughout this crisis. In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing, and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon."

[aristeides]

I hope the authorities are bearing in mind that Air Force One was a target on 9/11.

Speaking of Air Force One, if terrorists could take down TWA 800 with a Stinger, seems to me they would have been equally capable of taking down Air Force One by hiding right outside Andrews Air Force Base. I wonder why they didn't. Did they want to preserve Clinton?

[Steve0113]

What about the Shuttle.

Would that monster rocket even notice a two-pound warhead exploding back at the edge of its exhaust plume? I don't know the answer to that, but I doubt it. The lethal range of the Stinger is probably less than the size of the plume.

[hchutch]

You mean Bob Bevelacqua?

The SA-7's range is only 200 feet lower than the altitude. Could the missile have self-destructed after firing, and put a fragment into the fuel tank? A plane loaded with gas is pretty easy to take out. Reference Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, and Hiryu on June 4, 1942.

[aristeides]

Well, _Jim may be gone, but didn't Asmodeus start a thread yesterday still trying to refute missile theories about TWA 800? I was wondering why he did so yesterday. Maybe it was because he knew this was coming out.

[CELTICGAEL (Celt)]

I think that is his name. He is the ex-Special Forces guy that Fox has on alot.

[Semper Paratus]

Would that monster rocket even notice a two-pound warhead exploding back at the edge of its exhaust plume?

Maybe, maybe not, but any kind of debris could hit the central fuel tank and then ****.

[waterstraat]

Deport all illegals, close our borders, have a moratorium on immigration.

[CJ Wolf]

if the Navy was involved it was involved because it was looking for these creeps based off of intel. Don't lump everyone into that navy did it crowd, many here argued all sides of the conspiricy. You are an example.

[aristeides]

Michael Rivero (RIP) was always blaming the Navy. I -- and most people posting on TWA 800 threads -- have always been agnostic about whether the guilty parties who fired the probable missile were the US Navy or terrorists. However, Rivero did have one good argument for his conclusion that I would like to see an answer to: why, if terrorists shot the plane down, did the US Navy, which was having exercises on scene, hightail it out of there, instead of seeking out the terrorists (who presumably would have posed a danger to further flights out of JFK)?

[hchutch]

I doubt many of the planes were armed. IIRC, it was a P-3 Orion, not what you'd use to go after someone in a small craft. For that alleged exercise, it would also be unarmed. All you'd be doing is throwing away the dozen or more people on that P-3.