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"Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad" [repost with FULL TEXT, and source]
Marine Corps Intelligence Association: "Info from the Battle Field" ^ | 22 March 2002 |

Posted on 05/28/2002 3:36:36 PM PDT by RonDog

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A PARTIAL quote from this article was previously posted as:
Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad...
UNK | April 2002 | UNK
Posted on 5/1/02 6:51 AM Pacific by xsrdx

The FULL TEXT (and more completely attributed) version posted here was found by center-right talk radio host Hugh Hewitt.
1 posted on 05/28/2002 3:36:39 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
The source link posted here ends with the following text:
Use the back button on your browser!
The previous page referred to is apparently the "At War" page,
from the main website,

Welcome to the
Marine Corps Intelligence Association!

MCIA, Inc. Seal

The Marine Corps Intelligence Association is a non-profit, fraternal organization of Marine Corps regular, reserve, retired and honorably discharged Intelligence Marines, dedicated to the noble purpose of promoting fraternity, professionalism, and philanthropy as defined within our Association bylaws and outlined as follows:

To foster fraternal relations between Regular, Reserve, Retired and Veteran Marines who have honorably served in Marine Corps Intelligence;

To promote professionalism within the Marine Corps intelligence community by recognizing exemplary intelligence performance through the annual citation of Marine Intelligence Professionals of the Year;

To provide philanthropic services to our members, their families, or survivors in the form of annual academic scholarship;

To maintain a sound and service oriented relationship with the Marine Corps intelligence community in order to promote and enhance the reliability of our product to the Marine warfighter, and to our beloved Marine Corps.

In keeping with the 32d Commandant’s philosophical perspective that, “The simplicity of our lifelong title— Marine —brings forth association with our past and our present, as well as the promise of our future”, the Marine Corps Intelligence Association strives to bring together all Intelligence Marines under one banner of fraternity and professionalism. 

We especially continue to remember and respect the memory of those Marines of the intelligence community who have given the full measure.  Our Roll of Honor pays tribute and honors our fellow Marines who have fallen in battle while serving as intelligence specialists.

All Marines and friends of Marines are welcome at this web site. 

We especially invite those of the intelligence community to move through these pages with pride and a sense of accomplishment— for without them we shall not exist.


Click Here to Enter 

2 posted on 05/28/2002 3:50:05 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
I read a series of e-mails from an intelligence type over there a few days ago. Great stuff. One thing for sure. Our guys sure don't like CNN over there, they give away too many secrets.
3 posted on 05/28/2002 3:52:35 PM PDT by SolitaryMan
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma...
"The other reason we need the appropriate top awards pinned on these heroes is this -
Let the message go forth to the Al Qaeda, other terrorists, and those who want to back them anywhere on the globe.
Think you're tough? You want to kill our families, blow up civilians? Stand by!

We are sending our very best to hunt you down and take you out. These are the guys who are coming to get you. These are the guys who will climb into the mountains and into the darkened caves halfway around the world and look you in the eye, toe to toe, with any weapon at hand > >(ours or yours), to take you out.

These guys have trained longer, are stronger, harder, faster, tougher, and more relentless and lethal than anything you will ever produce. And we will arm them with the best money can buy, from Spectre gunships and thermobaric bombs to knives sharper than any box cutter you can sneak on a plane.

They are now on your trail. They're hunting you down.
How's it feel to be a terrorist now?

Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad."


If you listen to Hugh Hewitt, or read his WND commentaries,
this PING list is for YOU!

Please post your comments, and BUMP!

(If you want OFF - or ON - my "Hugh Hewitt PING list" - please let me know)

4 posted on 05/28/2002 3:58:38 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad.


5 posted on 05/28/2002 4:00:19 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
Love It!
6 posted on 05/28/2002 4:02:58 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: thud
7 posted on 05/28/2002 4:06:33 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: JeepInMazar
See also:
Navy SEAL Fought To the Death
New York Daily News | 3/22/02 | MAKI BECKER
Posted on 3/22/02 2:25 AM Pacific by kattracks

Navy SEAL Fought
To the Death

Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Neil Roberts — shot dead and dragged off by Al Qaeda fighters March 4 — went down fighting.

Thrown from his helicopter on the first night of Operation Anaconda, the Navy SEAL found himself alone and in enemy territory, according to two new accounts, including an e-mail circulating among military personnel.

His survival instinct in high gear, Roberts — a married father of a toddler son — grabbed a machine gun from a felled commando nearby, CBS News reported last night.

He opened fire with the machine gun and a pistol on the enemy fighters around him until he ran out of ammunition.

Roberts, 32, then stood and threw all his grenades before being cut down by enemy fire.

Helpless and horrified, his commanders watched via a reconnaissance drone's camera as Roberts' valiant last stand ended with Al Qaeda fighters dragging off his body.

According to the e-mail and other accounts given to CBS News by members of the Special Operations forces in Afghanistan, Roberts' helicopter was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade that didn't explode but caused the aircraft to lurch.

That ejected the chopper's tail gunner, who dangled from the aircraft by his safety harness.

Roberts then raced to action, putting down his rifle to pull the gunner inside.

But the helicopter was jolted again, and Roberts, who wasn't wearing a harness, fell 10 feet to the ground. His helicopter left without him, apparently unaware he was not on board, the reports said.

A second U.S. chopper also came under fire, and a commando aboard it was shot dead. He fell to the ground still clutching his machine gun, and Roberts made his way over to the dead soldier to grab his guns, according to CBS News.

Last Monday at a memorial service, Roberts was posthumously awarded the Bronze Star. CBS reported he is also being considered for a Medal of Honor.

Neil Roberts

8 posted on 05/28/2002 4:09:48 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Hey RD...Listening to Hugh right now and heard the quote...thanks for the ping.


9 posted on 05/28/2002 4:13:30 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: xsrdx; sneakypete; Travis McGee
10 posted on 05/28/2002 4:17:58 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog;ALL
Navy SEAL Neil Roberts

RIP Neil Roberts, and thank you for your valiant service.


11 posted on 05/28/2002 4:18:32 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: RonDog
Thanks, RonDog! I am always interested in reports from the military. God bless them!
12 posted on 05/28/2002 4:25:35 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Here is a more in-depth introduction, from ANOTHER post of this article, at

Editor's Note: This email was sent by one of our general officers in Afghanistan to Hack. His identity is being withheld. While the news from Operation Anaconda is slightly dated, this account provides some new details of the heroism of slain Navy SEAL Neil Roberts and the American soldiers who attempted to rescue him.

From Anaconda AO:

Ground war will be run by CINC's man on the spot, the Commander of 10th Mtn Division. (The CINC isn't trying to run the war via video from Tampa - he has a hell of a lot more to run besides Afghanistan, and that is his job and his place). As any other senior officer who has grown up in a branch culture, the 2-star 10th Mtn Division commander is most comfortable with Army and will primarily rely on them to be the lion's share of the offense on the ground. That's the way they are designed and supported. I think the performance during ANACONDA was a bit of an eye opener. Intel very hard to pin down - it's not a perfect world.

Afghans often playing both sides of the fence, thus the senior leaders have to be cautious. Don't think they thought resistance would be as bad initially as they found. Al Qaeda were well-entrenched and prepared to fight. UK SAS had a significant cave fight on a small complex last fall, and it was a brutal close quarter battle.

That should have keyed us to always be thinking they will do the same anytime we find pockets of them, especially if you intend to surround them and provide no "back door" for escape (setting up ambushes to catch them just as they think they've gotten out.

ANACONDA AO almost impossible to close off (huge and rough terrain), and locals supported Al Qaeda in many ways. We nailed a lot of them, but a lot got away. We can expect more of the same in the future. Certainly not a failure, and we'll take them out 100 at a time or 2 at a time, it matters not. The end will be the same, just might take longer.

SF A Teams doing dynamite mixing in with locals and doing their thing. USAF CCT doing incredibly well calling in heavy fire and bombs from above with precision. USAF PJs have been on every hot mission supporting as combat medics.

Unfortunately, there's still some mistaken concept out there that SEALs are only comfortable in water...

13 posted on 05/28/2002 4:33:27 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog;kattracks;exDemMom
More on Neil Roberts
14 posted on 05/28/2002 5:03:41 PM PDT by d14truth
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To: RonDog
And from Michelle Malkin, about the hero Roberts

From Flanders Fields to Roberts Ridge

To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. -- John McCrae, "In Flanders Fields," 1915

We cherish, too, the poppy red That grows on fields where valor led; It seems to signal to the skies That blood of heroes never dies. -- Moina Michael, "We Shall Keep the Faith," 1918

The Memorial Day tradition of wearing red poppies to honor our fallen American veterans was inspired by Miss Moina Michael, a Georgia teacher who was inspired by John McCrae, a Canadian military doctor who wrote the famous World War I poem, "In Flanders Fields." They, in turn, have inspired me to commemorate a story of war and sacrifice that happened just two months ago. The battle was Operation Anaconda in eastern Afghanistan. The enemy targets: al Qaeda troops and Taliban. In the early hours of March 4, 2002, the bloodiest date so far in the War on Terror abroad, U.S. Navy SEAL Neil Roberts joined his unit aboard a Chinook helicopter. They were assigned to conduct a clandestine insertion onto a 10,000-foot mountaintop to establish an overwatch position, protecting other American forces participating in the attack. As he prepared to jump from the helicopter ramp to the landing zone, the 32-year-old Roberts and the rest of the crew came under fire from a hail of rocket-propelled grenades. The aircraft lurched. Roberts was thrown from the helicopter. He fell several feet into al Qaeda-infested territory on the Kharwar Mountains. According to classified reports, Roberts survived the fall and valiantly held off enemy troops for more than half an hour. But when his machine gun jammed, Petty Officer 1st Class Roberts was overtaken and killed at close range by three suspected al Qaeda soldiers.

A six-man commando team set out to rescue Roberts. "We don't leave Americans behind," explained Brigadier General John Rosa, deputy director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, after the deadly fight. The team was also met by heavy fire, and Air Force Tech. Sgt. John Chapman, 36, was killed at the scene. During a follow-up gun battle on the mountain that lasted 12 hours, five other men from a quick-reaction rescue squad died: Senior Airman Jason Cunningham, 26; Army Pfc. Matthew A. Commons, 21; Army Sgt. Bradley S. Crose, 27; Army Sgt. Philip J. Svitak, 31; and Army Spc. Marc A. Anderson, 30. All of the men received posthumous honors, including the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and meritorious service awards, for their heroism on the frozen peak in eastern Afghanistan now known as "Roberts Ridge." But for Roberts, giving his life to his country was its own reward. In a letter he wrote to his wife before the attack in case of death, he reflected: "I consider myself blessed with the best things a man could ever hope for. I loved being a SEAL. If I died doing something for the Teams, then I died doing what made me happy. Very few people have the luxury of that."

In a memorial statement, Roberts' family elaborated on what motivated their cherished son, brother, husband and father: "He made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure that everyone who calls himself or herself an American truly has all the privileges of living in the greatest country in the world." May we never forget what happened:

"On Roberts Ridge"

I don't know if red poppies grow On Kharwar Mountains high or low, But on a distant peak there lies A modern Flanders Field.

One man battled from the ground, While helicopters gathered 'round, Whose crewmates' mission was defined: We don't leave our soldiers behind On any foreign field.

Bullets flew and seven fell dead. For all who gave let this be said: From Flanders Fields to Roberts Ridge, By peaks and valleys, beach and bridge, The blood of heroes has been shed So we might live our lives instead And humbly reap the gains Of freedom's yield. -- Michelle Malkin, 2002

15 posted on 05/28/2002 5:21:16 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RonDog
Here's to another Special Forces member who made the ultimate sacrifice, Sgt. Gene Vance Jr.
He was buried today. At Memorial, Sgt. Gene Vance Jr. Honored for Service to State, Nation.

Newly married, he missed his honeymoon to serve his country in Afghanistan and never got to see his new bride again.

16 posted on 05/28/2002 5:26:31 PM PDT by jrewingjr
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To: RonDog
Great post, Ron. Thank you.
17 posted on 05/28/2002 6:37:48 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: RonDog
Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad.

Big bump !

18 posted on 05/28/2002 6:38:32 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: RonDog
That story is eerily similar to a court-martial case from an episode of "JAG" about six months ago. If I remember correctly, in the "JAG" episode the commanding officer on the helicopter is standing trial for allegedly disregarding his crew's safety -- he went back under heavy fire to rescue a soldier who had fallen off a line from the aircraft when the pilot had to make an evasive maneuver.
19 posted on 05/28/2002 6:44:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: rintense;Howlin;homeschool mama;khepera;marylina;ohioWfan;NordP;Mo1
Pings. Thanks, Ron for posting this.
20 posted on 05/28/2002 9:04:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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