Posted on 05/28/2002 12:35:38 PM PDT by sourcery
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In other words, they're claiming all the evidence of the fossil record is a bunch of BS??
Dr. Clegg said: "The result is exciting because this is the first time the theory has been tested using natural populations. Previous tests have used artificially introduced ones, which don't tell you much about how real biodiversity evolves.
Now the anti-Es cannot claim that the theory has never been tested.
Huh? The fossil record never said that speciation occurred rapidly -- that is a conclusion that some paleontologists drew from the evidence, but with which other paleontologists disagreed. You've glommed onto part of the story and extrapolated wildly from there.
Don't believe it. James Carville doesn't look like his parents at all.
Is there a new species?
or have they just given us the bird again...
Well, first off one has to wonder whether even a 3000-year baseline can truly be written off as "gradual," given the time scales involved. To be perfectly honest, the article really doesn't answer the question of whether the theory of evolution has been tested, especially in the Macro sense.
All we see is a story about how they've observed "genetic changes," but we are not told their extent. We are not told if the observed changes are equivalent to the formation of races, or to the formation of entirely new, island-specific species of bird. The article's silence on the matter leads me to conclude that the differences are racial at best.
Also, what I read here tells us only about the effects of natural genetic drift and mutation for birds residing in places where conditions are probably pretty nearly identical from one island to the next. In other words, if this is evidence, it's evidence of micro-evolution.
It is not a test of the macro side of the theory, whereby entirely different kinds of animals are supposed to evolve in response to environmental pressures of one kind or another.
You say speciation, I say speculation. Lets call the whole thing off
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